By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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Bury the transmission lines so there's no pylons, or wind turbine, blotting the landscape.........
Come back to me dhume with your inspirational ideas .... |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| no the best power source is above your head......solar power rocks,specially with the greenhouse effect,hydro needs more effective use,wind farms are ok in moderation,tide generators work for me too.....but nucular(where does the waste go).....and before you ask......there are many ships circling the worlds oceans whos only job is carrying nucular waste from generators....mmmmm real safe clean and green.....if its not in your water source...but as the topic asks yes we can get manufacturing back up and running here in nz..just need tostop settling for cheap khrap imports and invest in our futures not someone elses....nuff said |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| Coal is okay to sell....but not to use....we are actually paying to help Russia clean up its act, how do you figure that out? |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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Sure solar and tide power are great concepts but tell me who currently uses either to power large cities. As for nuke waste I am sure that with the generation technology there is likewise for the disposal of the waste. Ever stopped to consider all the planet ruining crap that goes into the soil today at your local tip. Think of the acids, the poisins,the oily sludge, and all those other shockers that just get tipped into the tips and streams. At least with nuclear waste there would be a facility designed and built to handle that particular product; not just dumped somewhere like the rest of the trash in humanity.
People always, ALWAYS, ask "where are you going to put the waste". None of them give a sh.t about the absolutely disgusting 'leftovers' being dumped at a tip near you. |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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very, very true....I remember and not too long ago when still born babies were incinerated in Hospital boilers...
I've actually see places in India and even Japan, hidden away from view, where entire villages are deformed in one way or another...making their living from others crap.... |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| solutionnz; the knockers of nuke power should stop and think about where the residue from the poison 1080 goes today. NZ is probably the only country that hasn't banned it. We used to use DDT; where did the leftovers go; the manufacture of agent orange [amongst other things] in New Plymouth. Well we all know about the poisined soil and sick locals now don't we. |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| there is a technique where you take the landfills and drain the methaine gas created and....wait for it .....power things with it....and facilities for storing nucular waste....you volenteering for it in your back yard?...bombs waiting to explode...and as like your us wind farm analigy...been to the uk and seen the horrid blot that is the reactors??????? think a large propeller is the better option |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| yip so lets give oim some radds as well ....very caring of you dude |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| Here we go on about bombs again. Well we know where you're coming from; loop da loop. I'd rather have a secure waste disposal facility near me than a house next to the local tip. Get the methane gas out of the soil; WHERE. Sounds like a load of gas ...... |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| im crazy ....human error the one thing nz has an over abundance of ...oh and bludgers...led to the cynobil meltdown......and there is a large us land fill that is doing the methaine power thing.......will try find you a link....when i get out of my straight jacket |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| All you need to do it stop reading the crap that David Lange and Helegrad have implanted into your brain. You're knowledge is that limited that you compare todays nuclear power technology with that of the old nuts n bolts Soviet idiocy. Get real and read some modern stuff. You stick with your methane [heaven forbid ,huge rubbish tips required now] and I'll stick with my nuclear power generation. |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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does anyone still remember the Meola Road explosion in Auckland...right at the back of the zoo....the old landfill site?
...or Ngaruawahia...those big tubes sticking out of the ground along State Highway 1 and right in the middle of the town.....there's an argument each way on this one. |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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http://www.gradingandexcavation.com/mw_0705_methan e.html
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| im off this thread now....to close to the weekend not to be on sport boards....keep up the good work solutionz...........and dont forget the title of the thread |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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Chickenshi.; juzzkirk can't stand the 'glow'.
Meola road; yes I can vageuly remember that. And as far as I know the tipping methods are still the same today.
Exide battery fined AGAIN for unsafe practices involving lead. Where are the glow in the dark knockers when this happens. |
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By: dhume200
26/03/2008
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xtr. Nuclear power safe? No way. They may be able to generate power safely without having meltdowns. Nuclear waste has a half life of 1000's of years and so we will be left with an environmental hazard. Or would you like NZ to invest in a space program to send it to orbit.
What harmful waste does a windmill cause. If you don't like the look of them, don't look. But don't feed me crap on how Nuclear Power is the only answer |
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By: dhume200
26/03/2008
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| A little battery acid is harmless compared to radioactive waste xtr. And no there is still no proper way of disposing of nuclear waste xtr. |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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oh dear guess it would only be a matter of time before it was my turn for being abused...lets try and get our current forms of power generation working before launching into other extreme forms...we cant afford to pay for the means we have now,how we going to afford uranium???? second hand via a fta with china?
xtra do you live in the wiakato....down here in the south we enjoy our power 365 days a year...so dont need fluro generaters down here....hey heres an idea...you guys build your nucular plants up in the north and we will use our hydro and wind....guess our power will be heaps cheaper when we arent shipping it all up north |
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By: nomaza66
26/03/2008
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I thought this thread was about Manufacturing??
Yes there are a lot of NZ owned companies on the brink of closing or moving off shore. Sheep and Beef exports are heading the same way. |
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By: dhume200
26/03/2008
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I would be very surprised if beef or sheep processing units were moved offshore as this would mean the animals themselves would have to be transported. Not going to happen.
If their is one industry we won't be losing it is our primary agricultural products. |
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By: juzzkirk
26/03/2008
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| the pushing for free trade agreements with foreign countries instead of helping our home based manifacturers is the main reason....the nine years of the labour govt the other.....the balance has been thrown out you need ebbs and flows created by the switch in partys in power ....labour is historicley more social geared thus benificaries etc get the cash and business suffer,and with national historicley leans to the business side,i think that the solution starts with a change in govt as they have been under the pump for about three years to long.....qwhen this happens i see the road being made easier for the manufacturers |
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By: juzzkirk
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| dhume just the ability to afford our own products........and that stinks |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| dhume; since we've left the power problem and gone into meat. During 2002 New Zealand IMPORTED 16,860 tons of pork, 9,205 tons of beef, 2080 tons of lamb and 953 tons of mutton. Got this off a website. I believe our primary agriculture is now dairy and it does appear as if the meat industry is on the decline. I also think a lot of sheep and cattle farmers are changing over to dairy and that's one of the reasons for the water problems now happening. I'd also say that a few years ago one of the major Supermarket Chains [Progressive.Foodtown etc] closed down it's butchery operations at market level and started bringing in prepacks. Was this a sign for the future and a possible sourcing of cheap pre packed meat from overseas ????? I wonder...... |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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now we are onto supermarkets...doesn't one of them claim that their fresh food goes from producer to counter within 24 hours? I'm sure it claims that and also claims to be the 'Fresh Food' people...well, take a look at the lines that also say...manufactured in China, Korea, Hong Kong, even bl...dy whitebait.....and what waters do they come out off and how well are they handled?
I know of one packing house that supplies a major supermarket chain that sells 'Tasty' and 'Mild' cheese....but what type of cheese is it?
One supermarket chain recently told me the manufacturer's name....but I found out, they don't actually manufacture anything...what they do is 'Pack' and that is all, and the cheeses they pack as 'Mild' and 'Tasty' without declaring the cheese type (and they are very different, fat content, moisture, salts to name a few, is actually rejected, non-exportable product......
While we carry on that way....we will have problems growing any 'added value' manufacturing enterprise at all.
Sorry if anyone thinks this is off the thread.. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
26/03/2008
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| solutionz; right on. Now we're starting to see why it is near impossible for a NZ manufacturer to start up and to compete with the bandits from overseas. |
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