By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
29/04/2009
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The Maori Language Act 1987 legitimated te reo maori as one of the official languages of New Zealand.
Maori is not a compulsory subject in mainstream schools in contrast to english language programmes. This paradox reinforces the validity of english as the superior language in education and degrades the integrity of the treaty principles. Te reo maori should be compulsory in schools, so that education can truly reflect the equality lacking in present in education.
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By: dachiropracter17
29/04/2009
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what do i think?
I think you are foolish and i think maori should be voluntary. What use is it in the real world?????????
Only maoris get to work on the gravy train no matter how good anyone else may be at the made up lingo
MY KIDS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN ALL THAT PHONEY MAORI CR@P!!! |
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By: teoneroaatohe
29/04/2009
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dach: cant be that phoney if it forced a response from you.
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By: hine_raumati@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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Hi rangimarie,
English language is the most widely used and therefore a compulsary subject taught in schools. Its also a language you can take with you overseas unlike Te Reo Maori which use is restricted to Aotearoa.
In my individual case I think its important children learn the two languages but I understand that unless they have family members that encourage Te Reo Maori in the home, its of no relevance to real life. Education should be liberating and teach children ways to deal with their own reality. If thats not Te Ao Maori then its not a good use of their learning.
A Canadian friend of mine was so proud to claim that the official languages of Canada are English and French and I said "what the hey, what good is French unless youre going to France!"
As for degrading the integrity of the treaty and lack of equality in present education, well, thats an ongoing battle. I sometimes think the treaty isnt worth the paper its written on but thats just my own frustrations, hei aha.
I am currently speaking a few strong words to diropractor in New Zealands third official language. Sign. But dont be put off by her rangimarie, some people just come on here to have a little moan lol! |
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By: halenayukich
29/04/2009
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i agree. any opportunity to learn more than one language is a good thing!!
i wish as a child i had this option..instead i felt as though i had to supress my want to learn te reo..
learning maori and finally embracing my culture has opened up my eyes and my little girl to a whole other world and can do to everyone.
so i tautoko that 100 percent.
kapai rangimarie, your brave to have started this!!! |
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By: gavrielhm@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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Hi, from my perspective no language should be compulsory especially one that has little or no meaning to the majority living in such a small country. By all means if Maori want to learn their language and culture, go for it, do it, its your heritage but it isnt mine or that of my children.
My heritage is English / Samoan and the language i want to learn is that of the creator of this world and that is Biblical Hebrew that No other language can compare to. |
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By: rlfdevelopments@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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What a load of bullsh@t!!!! What are you writing in now!!! That's right the western worlds language ENGLISH!!!
Tell me how the hell maori can benefit our children and give this maori culture cr@p a break!! REALLY where does it add value to our children!! It doesn't!! I agree language at school is a good thing but lets try one that will benefit kids later in life when they are getting jobs or running business eg, Asian.
But maori??? Why the hell should pakeha have to have this cr@p rammed down their throats when no one else in the world or business gives a stuff about it!!
Over PC cr@p just to keep maori happy, give us all a break!! Speak it if you like but keep it in your family cause all of ours don't need or want it.
It's not BRAVE to start this, it's actually dumb. 17% of our population and you want us all have to suffer your pre historic language. |
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By: stevoc263
29/04/2009
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| If you want to speak maori, go for your life, but don't try to force it on anyone else. You'd be better off speaking Zimbabwian, coz if the maori get their way, thats what this country will turn into. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
29/04/2009
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Te reo maori is the indigenous language of New Zealnd and should be given the respect that it deserves. The education sector adopts policies more beneficial to the english speaking majority through curriculum development and implementation. There are an estimated 70% of Maori children enrolled into this mainstream public schooling system, that informinging or ignorantly reinforce the mono-lingual ideals of the dominant pakeha culture.
If taught or used within a culturally sensitive and contexually appropriate manner, both Maori and non-Maori could be advantaged with the benefit to speak two national languages; with Te reo as New Zealand's unique indigenous language better appreciated by all citizens. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
29/04/2009
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| Due to colonialisation and the 'no speaking te reo' policy enforced by pakeha in earlier assimilatory years, the Maori language had nearly perished. All Maori children schooling in those years were severely punished with physical maltreatment by teachers, if they spoke a word of their own native tongue in their playgrounds and in the school yard. Toward the 1970's and onwards, the earlier prohibitation of te reo had suppressed nearly two generations of Maori, who by then had lost a fair share of their identity, and were only able to speak english. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
29/04/2009
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If it is compulsory for Maori children to learn english in mainstream schools, then why is it not compulsory for non-maori children to learn Maori in mainstream schools?
It merely isn't about money and capital, but the need for equality and further empowerment of both Maori and Non-maori children in mainstream schooling. |
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By: stevoc263
29/04/2009
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| get your fact right rangi, Indigenous means "native to a country" Maori are not native NZers. Also, all children were punished with physical maltreatment in those days. Maori can have their identity, but don't try to force it on those to which it will do no good. Why do you think English is taught in schools all around the world? It is the universal language, and there is no benefit to anyone to learn maori, exept maori's. Unless you work for a social welfare dept off course. |
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By: bobsagoodbugger@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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| I agree Steve dont force on us a Language that wasnt even a written Language. I would prefer my kids learnt Cantoneese |
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By: rlfdevelopments@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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| Stevo is on the money here!! Bottom line is these idiots fail to see logic!!! |
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By: hine_raumati@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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Learning Te Reo Maori or any other language would promote the multi-culturalism and diversity of our small land and increase the mental capacity of the children also. Children are quite capable of learning two or more languages at an early age. Multilingualism enables communication and understanding which is what is required for the many cultures within New Zealand to work together towards a common goal. But once again, if their not supported its not a worthy cause.
We already have schools with compulsary Te Reo Maori; Kura Kaupapa and Kohanga Reo. Maori television is also quite educating. Whilst Maori is not compulsary in main stream schools, most do have a full immersion Maori stream which is elective. We also have community classes at Te Wananga O Aotearoa and you would be surprised at the amount of internationals who want to learn native New Zealand language.
Rangimarie, what about sign as an official language and taught in schools. Can you imagine that? Our children would be swearing behind our backs and we wouldnt even know it! Sorry, its a serious topic but probably better in politics. |
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By: maiaconsultants@xtra.co.nz
29/04/2009
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English is an international language....
No your slipping in that area as well.LMAO....It will be Hindi/Spaininsh and chineese soon......
Learning the Maori language will assist monocultrual New Zelanders by providing them with the skills when they will need to learn to speak chinesse....
You know simlar vowel sounds etc.
Dont be left behind. Its a new day.!! |
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By: katiana_henry
30/04/2009
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it is stupid you wouldnt even speak maori if you are working in a business kind of job. Except if ya working on a marae carving waka
it is ridiculous. finito. |
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By: maiaconsultants@xtra.co.nz
30/04/2009
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Engari kei te tino he koe!!!....ko te reo maori, e whakapaho atu i nga puoaka whakaata, i runga i nga irirangi me i roto etahi niu pepa...Ae Ra...Huakina ou taringa katahi ano ka rongo ki te reka a te reo e haere huri ana!!!! lol
A ko te taha umanga.....Aue e hia ke nga runanga huri noa aotearoa!!...He maha inaanei....He nui atu a muri mai i nga kereme ne!!...ko to matou hiahia, hei te wa ko te reo anake e korero ana i roto i enei wahi!!....
Kei te korero hainamana koe?.....Kia tere te ako!!....Ko ta makete nga makete mo nga mea i hangaitia nei e aotearoa....ka amarama atu ki a koe KO TE HAINAMANA ka KORERO ANA TE HAINAMANA! kaore te reo ingarihi, pera hoki a Ameirka ki te tonga, awhrika, Inia....he reo tuturu ano To ratou...Ehara ke ana ko te ingarihi!!
Kia pai tou whakaako i te reo o tenei whenua!
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30/04/2009
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By: maiaconsultants@xtra.co.nz
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So monolingual....so outdated....I mean for goodness sake even the french speak several languages...But no you hold to you lil language for life....There is a simple explanation for this of course...isnt there....Your brain.....doesn't have the capacity does it.....awww....Hey give sign language a twirl it may be easier on those dysfunctional cells you have inherited!!!
Kia kaha! |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
30/04/2009
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While I respect that sign language too, is one of New Zealand's official languages, it would not be irrelevant to consider 'sign' into the curriculum for the benefit of both teachers and students. The ministry of education allocates funding towards schools based on percentiles of Maori and special needs enrolled into each school, and in many cases although not all, RTLB's, special need education specialists and teacher aides are utilised within schools as a means of reducing learning barriers and increasing the opportunity for successful achievement outcomes.
In terms of te reo Maori, there are a large majority of mainstream schools who do not access those human and capital resources to enhance opportunities for Maori. The neoliberal reform instigated the rise of an economic-capitalist society, mainly the global knowledge economy. This shift meant that education was now seen in terms of a marketable commodity.
However with emphasis placed on the global world, local and nation practices have been given secondary priority. These ideals are continually reinforced through education in a range of ways such as mono-lingual and mono-cultural policies, curriculum development and implementation strategies for mainstream schooling.
It is not a case of "What will happen to my first language being english?"
The advantages are much more greater. Multilingual speakers have increased opportunity of gaining more social, human, cultural and economical capital, which can be effectively utilised within both the national and global arena. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
30/04/2009
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| Atu i tera he korero ano ki te whakaako tatou i nga tamariki ki roto i nga kura ka taea e ratou e tu ki te korero maia i te ao hurihuri nei inahoki ka whai mohio ratou ki te whakapumau te puawaitanga o to tatou iwi maori te puawaitanga o to tatou iwi pakeha me te whakapakaritanga o te motu nei ahakoa kaore etahi tatou e mohio oku whakaaro e pa ana ki te ao putea me te hononga reo kei te whakapono au i te korero 'ki te mahitahi tatou ka tupu tonu tatou katoa' kia au koina tetahi o nga whakaaro mo te haerenga kotahitanga i Aotearoa nei |
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By: dingerway
30/04/2009
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| rangimarie@rocketmail.com , vous êtes ainsi très ingnorent au mieux pourquoi devez-vous l'écrire dans le maori ? |
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By: dingerway
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| Sie sind so sehr ingnorent bestenfalls, warum müssen Sie das auf Maori schreiben? |
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