By: capscor57
2/08/2009
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Wharkwit StretchyTit!!!!
There's no way you can convince me that you have any philanthropic good sense. You are an ass in the strongest terms of the word!!!!
Good on you ya d.ickhead. If ya like the Indians, the Chinese, or whoever you like co.cksucking up to, then why not go and live in their native countries????
Half-breed half-wit!!!!!!
Why should I answer a two bit buffoon like you , you ar5ehole!!!!!???? |
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By: capscor57
2/08/2009
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Kia ora ki a koe Kym,
Bi-lingualism opens up so many different doors. Even if Maori has no 'use' overseas, at least it has a bearing here in Aotearoa.....as a stepping stone on to other lingual pursuits!!!
Closed minded wharkwits like StretchTit have no right adding their racist views to the arguement |
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By: stretchit80
2/08/2009
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| capscor57 ,why would you bring up racist for, i never mentioned anything of the sort, im very happy only being able to speak english i dont care for any other language , and capscor57 stop writing comments away from the subject you bringing up stuff way of centre, maybe you are the racist one? since you brought it up, do you have a problem you may need councilling for the 150years europeans have civilised the country, move on buddy this is a democracy and i choose not to learn maori, and have it thrown in my face, answer my questions |
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By: capscor57
2/08/2009
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Well then StretchTit,
Let's back it up a bit ya ar5ehole!!!
When you vociferously say that you would never want Maori taught compulsorily in schools, given that it has never been done so, that smacks 110% of aa rednecked attitude that probably equals white supremism!!!!
Given that your kids are at least 1/16 Maori and have you as a significant parent possessed of such a racist attitue, it falls on anyone who sees fit to expose you for what you are!!!
A wharkin' half-breed racist who is ashamed of their birthright...!!!
Shame on you and pity on your offspring!!!
Spud!!!!!! |
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By: capscor57
2/08/2009
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What's more,
1. I have always been 'on centre'
2. I am not racist. I am of mixed Pakeha and Maori descent AND proud of both!!!
3. Europeans civilising this whenua..Bwa hahahahahahaha!!! Yeah Right!!!
3. I ain't ya buddy. I only associate with those of the same or higher intellect. You are neither!!!
4. What questions have you asked??? All you have done is espouse your unabashed racist views!!!
As per my last posts...Wharkwit!!!!!! |
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By: stretchit80
2/08/2009
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| haha nothing like a good argument to end the week, because i choose not to learn maori does that make me a racist? |
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By: capscor57
2/08/2009
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Whether or not you choose to learn or speak Maori is your choice alone. It has always been. No one has forced anything onto you and never will. Reo Maori/Tikanga has NEVER been a compulsory undertaking and so it shouldn't be. But being adept in both English and Maori has enriched my life in considerable ways. I don't care that I have never used Maori outside of these borders...
I hope your new week is fruitful and fulfilling as I know mine will be |
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By: awatea1960
2/08/2009
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I am of Maori Descent,but been brought up the European way-of which I will be eternally grateful for.
The World has become too PC now-I dont believe Te Reo should become Compulsory in Schools/Business-Te Reo is the Language of the Maori.If people of other Ethnic persuasions choose to learn that's all good,but nobody should be forced to do so.
There are Maori who,either by choice or circumstance,do not know how to speak Te Reo.They are the people who need to learn.
By the way,I think the recent dialogue between yourself & the 2/3 other respondents is very Immature-you all need to Chill! |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
2/08/2009
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| Like your post kym, makes alot of sense |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
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Awatea, did you not read Caps posts, Te Reo is not compulsory. Not all Maori agree that it should be either but should definitely be made an option.
What may seem like immature posts to you are signs of frustation with ignorant Pakeha who continually think they know whats best for Maori. You need to read all the posts and then make judgement before commenting!! |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
2/08/2009
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| Kia ora Capsy, hope ya had a great weekend: ))) |
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By: awatea1960
2/08/2009
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There are the "Activist"element in Maori quarters who have,and still are,attempting to push making Te Reo compulsory.
It should be a Personal choice whether One decides they wish to Learn.
It is a well known fact that that,the younger a Person is,the easier it is to pick up a "Concept"-Language being one of them,so,maybe when a Brightspark decides every person should learn to speak Maori,they need to be onto it enough to know;"it may harder than one realises".
I made a personal choice to take Te Reo at Secondary School,and I'm glad I did-if I had left it another 10 years,I may never have bothered 'cos it would've been that much more difficult to grasp!
There's more to learning about a Culture than the Language.
Would I want to know how to speak Swahili,French,Sp *** h,Afrikaans,Mandarin unless there was a reason I would need to???I dont think so somehow! |
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By: awatea1960
2/08/2009
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| I just picked up on the other persons comments,but I still stand by what I said in the post before about the Activists who insist on pushing their point of view,and the rest of my post.Po Marie |
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By: capscor57
3/08/2009
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Morena Awatea,
I hope you're not pointing the gnarled finger at me!!! LOL.
I have never espoused a compulsory Te Reo element in any environment EXCEPT where it is an integral part of the Kaupapa. ie Kura Kaupapa Maori/Kura Maori.
It should remain a choice as it mine to be possessed of this treasure.
But it does bear some thinking about the near miss Oz and we had in WW2. We'd all be eating Sushi and Udon noodles by now. Now that's what you call 'compulsory'.
We all need a dose of 'chill pill' every now and then, but I am sick to the back teeth with the production line racists that sully these boards...AND let's be real, their comments don't come from any informed basis, but from an innate hatred of 'things' Maori!!!!
Kia pai to ra, ano hoki, nga mihi nui ki a koe mo ou tuhinga whakaaro.
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By: capscor57
3/08/2009
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Morena Ripeka (-:,
Ae, i pai taku mutuga wiki. I tu te Pae 7 Kanikani i te
po rahoroi. He po pai, he po whakahirahira.
Pehea tau?
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By: a1289jeza
3/08/2009
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Hine,
French is the third most commonly spoken language behind English and Cantonese. |
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By: capscor57
3/08/2009
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It's not surprising Jez,
They were prolific colonisers too!! |
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By: stretchit80
3/08/2009
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How come daycare teachers have to speak maori to the kids?
and if they dont do it enough times during the day the teachers get pulled aside and repremanded , think about that one |
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By: capscor57
3/08/2009
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Now I know you ARE pulling me tit....Uh Ha!!! The reason for your sign on name...????
If indeed what you say is gospel, then shame on the staff!!~ Are you sure you didn't inadvertently stumble upon a Kohanga Reo??!!! (-: |
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By: awatea1960
3/08/2009
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No,I'm just giving my point of view about the whole issue.I did'nt mean to point the finger!
In my vocation,as it is probably the case in many,we had to do Treaty Training;Te Tiriti o Waitangi-OMG I learnt so much!!!At School the only things I knew were,the Date,Place,and main Signatories.
At the Treaty training,My Eyes were opened well & truly,it was def all good from a personal point of view,made me realise how little I knew about my Countrys' History,all the same I can & do understand why there is such an uproar over having Te Reo made compulsory-
1.Government Policy-seen to abide by Treaty Obligations
2.Maori Quota-Continuim from above,with input from Minority Parties/Factions.
3.Amounting to Political Correctness.
*The People whose Whakapapa originate in Aotearoa,should be the ones to learn Te Reo-should they choose to!
"You cant teach an old Dog new tricks"! |
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By: capscor57
4/08/2009
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LOL..I know you weren't Awatea. Just having ya on (-:.
I can't argue with the guts of your korero, but other than being rightfully recognised as an official language of Aotearoa, what legislation has been put in place to make Te Reo compulsory??. Nada!!! It's just all Maori bashing scaremongering propaganda. Any PC moves to make it such could be its death knell I reckon.
It should be a matter of choice
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By: ripekaarmstrong
4/08/2009
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| Caps hasnt the 2010 curriculim got Compulsory Te Reo?? I hope not but I'm sure it has |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
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| My God you're up early hahaha |
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By: stretchit80
4/08/2009
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| This is a normal daycare, 2 european,3 indian and 1 chinese teacher, they all have to speak maori to the kids so much a day, and when they get a inspection the teachers have to speak maori and if they dont do it enough they get pulled aside and questioned, 35 children all are indian and chinese not maori or europeans there lol is that funny |
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By: stretchit80
4/08/2009
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and I still ask you capscore, why in a group of non maori speakers, and a maori gets up and starts talking te reo to the group then changes to english why do they do it , makes no sence to me,and thats happened a few times and also having a pray read out in maori and no one understood
has it gone to far |
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