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By: lesmitchell@xtra.co.nz
3/01/2008
8:12 pm

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This is the biggest con scince Pearl Harbour

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
4/01/2008
6:23 am

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Con? To what end? Who gains? Are you taking the pi(ss)?

By: putionz
4/01/2008
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les are you smelling what leighton smith is stepping in? What informs your opinion...how about a few facts etc to get the ball rollin'

By: berniehf12
5/01/2008
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It is a con.The big energy firm in the states, enron, started all this global warming nonsense about twenty years ago.Why? to make money.The big bosses were prosecuted not long ago for fraud.
Global warming is cyclical, look to the past.
How can you believe scientists when they will not accept the bible as to how the world and universes came into being because it cannot be tested scientifically, yet gaily push the big bang THEORY as fact, with out any proof and the THEORY of evolution, which also, cannot be proven.
The good news is that more and more top gun scientists are coming to the conclusion that ceation is more possible than the big bang and evolution>

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
5/01/2008
2:15 pm

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berniehf12
That is the biggest load of crap I have read for a long time. You are in denial berniehf12. Do not try and convince anyone that corporate America "invented" global warming, it is corporate America and other large corporates(including who I work for sadly) everywhere in the industrial world which have been the biggest opponents of anything that cuts profit and improves the effect on the environment.

You do not have to be a genius to work out that if you take something out of the earth that has been there for millions of years then you are directly effecting the equilibrium and balance of the planet. You put oil in a car to cool the engine, what do you think that oil is doing for the earth? Thats right, lubricating and cooling it. What happens when a car no longer has oil and you keep driving it? Yip it eventually dies through overheating. So all those billions of litres we consume for our cars should be left where it is to continue doing the job that the creator or however the planet came to be, that is was designed to do.

Incidentally, I believe scientist BECAUSE they do not believe the total nonsense written by anonymous HUMAN authors of the various religous versions of bibles(OLD Testament, NEW Testament). Thank goodness for science or else we would still believe the earth was flat, FACT.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
5/01/2008
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The good news is that more and more top gun scientists are coming to the conclusion that ceation is more possible than the big bang and evolution
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Total rubbish.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
5/01/2008
2:31 pm

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with out any proof
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R U kindding me? Lack of proof is entirely what the bible is based on.

By: seaglenz
5/01/2008
7:22 pm

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dirtysouth.
You put oil in your engine to lubricate it not cool it.
The water in the radiator cools the engine.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
5/01/2008
8:56 pm

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seaglenz thanks for that, perhaps you could also answer me this in regards to the dynamics of an engine, tell me "how long will a car go for without oil?", nah just kidding, rhetorical question, it may go for a short time, but the clock will be ticking, and it WILL stop, because the workings of this environment depend on it. This was more my point. If you "remove" from an environment something that has developed over millions of years(oil, forests)and on top of this "add" to an environment( polution, nuclear testing) then at some time this must have a flow on effect to the natural order of things.

It mattters not if you subscribe to creationism or any other theory, and I am not a tree hugger, but I do think anyone who believes that this planet doesn't have a "used by date" in terms of the way we keep phucking it up, is either in denial, or blind.

By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
6/01/2008
6:51 pm

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Agreed...It's an excuse for taxing the people.
If the earth hadn't been warming..............we wouldn't be here.

To hell with these 'Flat Earthers'.
Just watch how Clark in particular will find ways of taxing you and selling off any improvements you can make...It's bollocks

By: berniehf12
7/01/2008
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If you read the bible and compare it to modern science, there is your proof of creation.
Scientists cannot prove the THEORY of the big bang, nor can they prove the THEORY of evolution.If you believe in either of these, you believe n the tooth fairy and santa clause.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
7/01/2008
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Maybe so, but the alternative is to believe in Angels, Miracles, Spirits, Poltergeists, voodoo and witchcraft, with a touch of Heaven, Hell, Souls, and the blind belief in a bunch of books written by so called disciples who did not and could not have written the so called word of god, the bible. Marvellous piece of fiction though :-)

By: putionz
8/01/2008
8:36 am

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There's a reason why it's referred to as theory...because it's exactly that. The bible contains much which is observed in the real world however science is unable to explain so to subscribe to that is a question of faith. It's a big ask to go either way although for differinet people one is more plausible over the other but still does not go so far as to hold all the answers. Either way it comes to to whther you are a person of faith or a person of science for mine I think they are limbs of the same tre despite what's out there in the world today. The further forward we push the more science and everything that has been learnt has to be revised. To me this could be exciting times to be living in if we weren't hampered with so much fear that holds us all back from the answers.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
8/01/2008
12:50 pm

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Thats right, it is only theory.............I just wish mine was better than what I believe, my current belief is....well, frankly, it's pretty crappy hahahaha

I say good luck to those of the faith, lucky buggers!!

By: mearhoo
9/01/2008
2:48 pm

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makes you wonder though about these americans.. there is talk that they didnt go to the moon.
but why else is the antartic melting.
why are the oceans creeping in.
why are we having so many floods.
why are we getting all these earthquakes.
because the planet is changing.
as the bible says: man destroys earth>

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
13/01/2008
9:32 pm

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Well then, if the bible says it, it must be true!!

By: gvtstkwi07
14/01/2008
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it is said that the Americns had staged the whole going to the Moon,questioned are still asked why havn't they been back.Reports that when Armstrong stepped on to the moon he was greeted by an alien ship,in his dialogue recorded on the moon his famous "One big step for man and one step for mankind"he then had paused and said "what is that?"
Armstrong and co were then led to a deserted city on the moon and then told not to come back.Americans did return and try to nuke any inhabitants that caused a threat there against us only to hear a massive hollow sound as the nuke *** the abandend city this is how they claim that the moon was hollow,this is one of the reasons why they havent been back.This one theory that came out of the states and alot of U.F.O believers had published over 35yrs ago and was leaked from a former employer from Americas space program in late 60s early 70s.N.A.S.A has spent milions to discredit him and have seem to do so

By: violetmnsn
14/01/2008
6:31 am

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Maybe creation was ignited with a big bang, Anyway i dont see christians doing much to stop the destruction and polluting of our planet,obviously no respect for gods creation,

By: cr2ispyapple
14/01/2008
2:30 pm

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Heres a bit off thought for you, 100,000's of years ago creatures were a lot bigger due to the atmosphere at the time, as centuries have past organisms have been getting smaller due to oxygen depletions. So were do we go to if we dont get it right. Hydroponically manufactured food and glass jars we will be living in.

By: dirtydirtysouthnz
14/01/2008
5:44 pm

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I am sure you will just be able to immigrate somewhere else IMMIGRANT(crisp2apple), just as you did to New Zealand.

By: camb@xtra.co.nz
5/02/2008
6:57 pm

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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
6/01/2008
6:51 pm
Just watch how Clark in particular will find ways of taxing you

In my opinion if you TAX anything the TAX increases inflation which increases wages. TAX rarely prohibits people from using the product. Smoking TAX may have slowed down there use, but the exercise TAX on Alcohol has had no effect from slowing use of that product at all. TAXing products increases INFLATION which = higher wages ! Carbon TAX = INFLATION = HIGHER WAGES and SALARIES !

By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
5/02/2008
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Get off the grass....since when has inflation as such ever increased wages...especially for Joe and Jenny working public?

Comon....! Gggggggggezzzzzuzzzz!

If you think government dictated 'cost of living increases' when or if they come about, keep pace with inflation....you have to be kidding.

Don't take the pee pee, please

By: camb@xtra.co.nz
6/02/2008
8:08 pm

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HAAAAAA !!
Well I don't know what type of grass you are on but my wife negotiates her increases every year and above inflation. I suggest you try the same.
The wonderful green party have managed to get the bottom of the heap wage earners Joe and Jenny a 6.6 % wage increase from $11.25 to $12.00 per hour.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/4328331a13.html
did s...nz@x miss out here

wages up 3,250 % in last 50 years !!!!!?
over the last 50 years wages have gone up from $20 a week in 1956 most likely a bit high <1966 $24.00>
2006 $650.00 per week = 3,250 %
by 2056 the average weekly wage will be $21,125.00 !!!!!!! ho ho ho
and
http://www.stats.govt.nz/products-and-services/hot -off-the-press/nz-income-survey/new-zealand-income -survey-jun-07-qtr-hotp.htm

Average weekly income from all sources for the 2007 June quarter:
was $667, up 9.4 percent from the June 2006 quarter.
was up 10.4 percent for males (to $832) and up 7.8 percent for females (to $510), from the June 2006 quarter.
rose by 22.4 percent for the 60- to 64-year-old age group, while the 20- to 24-year-old age group decreased by 2.7 percent.
Thirty-eight percent of people received investment income, the highest proportion of any June quarter between 2002 and 2007.
For those receiving investment income, the average weekly income from investment was $137, up 29.1 percent from the previous quarter.

you need to get a solution "nz" to your pathetic wage bargaining efforts
cackle
Joe and Jenny may best slip off to Australia for there 40% increase.

By: noozilander
11/02/2008
12:11 pm

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Dunno about the planet, but my creation was definitely the result of a big bang! Poor ol' mum, the randy bugger just couldn't leave her alone...........

By: powley9
11/02/2008
3:09 pm

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of course it is warming any nit wit can see that how many frosts we had last year?
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