By: soicanlaugh
20/09/2008
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| You can pay for hore Jamie I think you need one. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
20/09/2008
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| you need a friggin brain |
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By: barry_roberts@xtra.co.nz
20/09/2008
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Sorry we could not do that mate.
Rumour is that if she losses the election she has been offered a job as Mugabes chief advisor!
I believe she has been advising him on Agriculture already :-) |
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By: soicanlaugh
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| I would ask if I could borrow yours but you've obviously lent it out and it hasn't been returned. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
20/09/2008
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| i give you a link that rates nz as the least corrupt country in the world. but because it dosent fit in with your arguement, you dismiss it without even having a look at anything like the methods they use or the different areas of corruption they measure. yer sheep |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
20/09/2008
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| You lot that are raving about starting and running a business in this country and hard it is, how come the world bank and others rate nz as one of the easiest places in the world to start and run a business? |
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By: soicanlaugh
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Unbiased, hard data continue to be
difficult to obtain and usually raise problematic
questions with respect to validity.
Direct quote Jamie in the second paragraph. |
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By: soicanlaugh
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| Refer back to my post on perceptions Jamie. |
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By: vixey_reid
20/09/2008
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Why is the CPI based only on perceptions?
It is difficult to assess the overall levels of corruption in different countries based on hard empirical data, e.g. by comparing the amount of bribes or the number of prosecutions or court cases. In the latter case, for example, such comparative data does not reflect actual levels of corruption; rather it highlights the quality of prosecutors, courts and/or the media in exposing corruption across countries. One strong method of compiling cross-country data is therefore to draw on the experience and perceptions of those who are most directly confronted with the realities of corruption in a country.
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
20/09/2008
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| what about the free market? america has is paying 1 TRILLION US dollars to nationalise the mortgage market there to prop up the world free market. thats some government subsidy. does that make the money people beneficiaries? |
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By: blossom20002008
20/09/2008
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So larry.burke do you run a business - just curious.
And JJ if all employers are so bad why don't you become self employed, then you wouldn't have to put up with being ripped off by them |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
20/09/2008
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| no I don't run a business but have spent a few years studying and reserching business and management practices and systems.follow the world markets and politics. |
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By: soicanlaugh
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| Another student with no practical experience you should be in the Labour cabinet larry. |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
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| they wouldn't employ me i'm too old. just happy to do my thing and help some kiwis who haven't been as fortunate as me. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
20/09/2008
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| i am self employed blossom. yeah larry its not hard to start a business in nz. of course its based on perceptions vixey. if transparency international is wrong about nz, we must be some dumb bast ards then because its our perceptions they rate. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| you are just pissed off because it makes mockery of your claims the govt is rotten and corrupt. try doing some thinking for yourself |
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By: vixey_reid
20/09/2008
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So the best way you have to refute the DOCUMENTED occurrences I brought up about Peter Doone's removal by Hulun is a report about "perceptions", okkkay.
What are your takes on Doonegate, Parkergate, Corngate, Paintinggate, Speedgate, to name just a few, you know, as an "impartial observer".
I do PLENTY of thinking for myself, TVM.
OOH and as far as corruption goes.. keep this place in mind. LAS VEGAS.
We should be hearing a lot more about it soon. |
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By: vixey_reid
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"if transparency international is wrong about nz, we must be some dumb bast ards then because its our perceptions they rate."
Yes, I agree, or snowjobbed or both. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| didnt doone pervert the course of justice over a drink driving incident involving a member of his family ?what the hells corngate. painting gate is a mountain out of a mole hill. helen wasnt driving, she said she was reading, quite believable. you dont think for yourself, impartially at least. |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
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| funny that we are assessed as the of the lest corrupt counties in the world. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| next, the anti labourites will say transparency international is under helens control. it wouldnt be the stupidest thing theyve said |
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By: mckechniekris
20/09/2008
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Beaurocrats will rub your face in statistics because you can always hide from the real truth. When Labour start having to face certain truths, they will create more beurocrats, red tape, probably create an organisation that does nothing but talk about the problem, until we are going round & round & round like we do with this lame Govt.
Take crime for example. Some Labour stiff said that crime has decreased over the last decade when we all know this is not true.
The incoming National Govt will give these old men the boot and take action, effectively cutting the problem off at the knees.
Less beurorats = Less problems |
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By: dafecat@xtra.co.nz
20/09/2008
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I like Hilary Clinton's recent joke: In a Nuclear fallout, only two things would survive. 1) *** roaches 2) Helen Clark.
In the USA, she is known as Red Helen.
Yes, she runs a Govt that has no interest in public opinion, even if it is %88 against the Govt view. Any Govt that turns it's back on %88 of it's people it represents, must be communist. Glad to see the end of her!!!
Anyone who votes Helen - Votes against Democracy. You got to be pretty thick to vote against democracy.
LOL - NZ'ers are so stupid. Under Labour it's the dumbing of the nation! Brain drain, Political Correctness, Worsening education system, declining health system, Major declining in the OECD rating. Rising Immigration, Huge Taxes, Higher than ever crime rates. Thanks Labour!
Our educated people leave the country to be replaced by immigrants that come to live their lives on our benefits. Why do people like labour??? |
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By: dafecat@xtra.co.nz
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Yeehah! National is going to Win!
Goodbye Red Helen. Goodbye Communism.
Hello Democracy! |
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By: vixey_reid
20/09/2008
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JJ, If you don't have sufficient knowledge of those events I referred to, that's fine.
But don't try to gloss over or dismiss them from a position of ignorance.
Peter Doone did no such thing.
Helen Clark leaked false information to the media that resulted in a public perception of the Police Commissioner that was simply not true. Then that public perception was used to justify his position being untenable. |
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