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10 DAYS TO GO!!!
Monday 25 May
Hikoi will begin 12pm at the bottom of Queens Street, Auckland City.
HUMAN RIGHTS AND AUCKLAND âSUPER CITYâ
Background
Government has decided that Maori will not be represented âas of rightâ in the proposed council for the new Auckland City. This decision has prompted a reaction from Maori seeking representation on the Council based on their institutions. That reaction has prompted a wide range of public responses from political parties, iwi and other Maori leaders, media and the general public particularly through âtalk backâ radio. Opinions are polarised and there is a lot of emotion in the responses. Recent UMR surveys indicate the most New Zealanders have little perceived knowledge of the Treaty of Waitangi and human rights but most believe that the Treaty belongs to all of us and that it is the founding document of New Zealand/Aotearoa.
The rights being debated in this issue are to do with representation based on the Treaty of Waitangi. How does this issue relate to the Treaty? What human rights issues are involved?
Treaty of Waitangi
The Treaty of Waitangi
ï§ Gave the Crown the authority to govern (Kawanatanga)
ï§ Affirmed the authority of Rangatira to protect and develop their taonga. (Rangatiratanga)
ï§ Gave citizens the authority to belong as equals: Turangawaewae (Rite Tahi)
The Treaty established relationships based on the âpromise of two peoples to take the best possible care of each other,â a shared vision. The relationships which are represented by a range of entities, operate at different levels of engagement
ï§ Structural (Governance)
ï§ Institutional (Management); and
ï§ Operational (Implementation)
The principal relationship is between Crown leaders and Rangatira. The Crown is represented at national level by Government and Parliament and at regional/local level by local authorities. Rangatiratanga is represented by Rangatira, traditionally from Iwi and Hapu, ... |
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Continued from previous post...
The principal relationship is between Crown leaders and Rangatira. The Crown is represented at national level by Government and Parliament and at regional/local level by local authorities. Rangatiratanga is represented by Rangatira, traditionally from Iwi and Hapu, and more recently also from Maori organisations.
What is the structural, institutional and operational relationship between the Auckland Council and the Treaty? How are rights and responsibilities being represented, promoted and protected?
ï§ How is the partnership enacted?
ï§ How is Rangatiratanga protected?
ï§ How is participation guaranteed?
What is the forum for the realisation of Treaty rights and responsibilities? Who says? |
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By: mauriora1
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Continued from previous post
Human Rights
The key human rights issues relate to lack of knowledge and respect for indigenous rights by government, supported by significant public leaders and an ignorant and fearful public informed by the media. The Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples provides a minimum standard for States to respect the human rights and responsibilities of indigenous peoples. The New Zealand government does not support the Declaration, but it is still a set of international minimum standards for protecting human rights for indigenous peoples. It calls on States and Indigenous Peoples to adopt it as âa standard of achievement to be pursued in a spirit of partnership and mutual respect.â
Articles three and four confirm the rights of self determination and self management. That is an affirmation of Rangatiratanga in relation to the Treaty
Article five asserts the rights of full participation in the State. That includes all levels of participation and engagement. The Auckland City Council is representative of the State at regional governance (Kawanatanga) level. The structural Treaty relationship between the Council and Tangata Whenua especially about representation is at the centre of the dispute. What does full participation mean regarding representation on the Council? Who says?
Article eighteen asserts the right to participate in decision making in matters which would affect their rights. The government has determined that Maori will advise the decision makers.
Article thirty two helps clarify the realisation of articles three and four (self-determination, self-government). It affirms the right to free, prior and informed consent before allowing any activities affecting taonga including resources assigned to local authorities such as water. |
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By: palladin22
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| mauriora1. You will get the same representation that every other ratepayer does. Stop you whining..This is local not central government |
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By: mauriora1
15/05/2009
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Mate
You guys dont even rate a mention! Read my post, make yourselves aware of the issues. Heres the opportunity for you guys to learn something about Maori.
And big pumpkin, not only am i supporting this kaupapa for Maori, im also supporting it on behalf of the rural community i live. I pay rates. I know how hard it is. And like FK me and my partner are gonna lay down and let the government dictate our lives.
Just have a think for a minute. What is it your actually opposing in this thread? Is it maori? or is it your own insecurities?
I want good and proper debate here guys. No race hate. These issues are far bigger than the biarch sessions we're all use to having, so please, lets move on from that and i wanna here some good harty and constructive feedback.
Mauri Ora!! |
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By: newage@xtra.co.nz
15/05/2009
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| mauriora! tooooo late to march legislation passed on 13th. done deal super city is a go! GET WITH THE PROGRAM????????? |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
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| Yip, no seats no Maori representation, can't have that now can we. |
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By: ripekaarmstrong
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| newage, you should be leading the hikoi!! |
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By: mauriora1
15/05/2009
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Newage,
We're not opposed to the super city. I thought that was made clear.
HIKOI - Theres no super city without us!
"Us" refers to all nationalities and those supporting the kaupapa. This doesn't only effect Maori, it effects non-maori too.
And as for the done deal, i can guarantee you there is no done deal. Keys has his poker face on at the mo and will probably fold in the 11th hour.
Just wait and see!! |
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By: qbigwood@xtra.co.nz
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| From what I understand, the super city councilors will be picked via a vote. If you dont get enough votes you dont get in. Enough with the hand outs already and get with the diplomatic program. |
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By: palladin22
15/05/2009
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""I want good and proper debate here guys""
First you need to have an open mind, not the fixed agenda you have continuously vented here - so proper debate is out for a start.
"" and like FK me and my partner are gonna lay down and let the government dictate our lives"" - seems you have already abdicated any protest and like always wait for the government handouts because you are indigenous...well done..
End of debate, you are unworthy of another comment. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
15/05/2009
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I agree that the 3 seats allocated to Maori should not be abolished. Maori are over represented in the demographics for the underachievement in education, prison systems and welfare dependency. Maori need their own representation, and their own "VOICE" in order to better facilitate their people in accomplishing their goals.
A "qualified and skilled" non maori representative will not be able to represent Maori without compromising and detracting efforts of Maori pursuing their own tino rangatiranga.
United Nations declaration of Indigenous rights capitalises on 46 articles that protects the rights it's indigenous peoples. |
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By: mauriora1
15/05/2009
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Hahaha, are you for real Palladin?
Debate the issues. Not me!! |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
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| It is not yet a done deal. |
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By: palladin22
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mauriora...quote from you - "" And like FK me and my partner are gonna lay down and let the government dictate our lives.""
There is no debate - you have admitted you will lay down and do whatever the Government dictates...
The end... |
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By: garybwills
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| i wonder how many white seats they give away in south africa these days.i wonder |
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By: jacquenoire
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| walk all you like horiora who cares what you do. aucklanders and more importantly mr john key have spoken. he has said that the auckland councillors will be elected by the democratic process that is the backbone of this nation. now if maori make up 14.9% of nz population then whats wrong with maori that they can't get elected by their people and gain representation the honest way like the rest of us. is it that maori are a bit backward and need to be molly-coddled along because they would never achieve anything on their own. mr key has spoken and the freebies are over boy. while you're walking and whineing and bleating about how hard done by you are i'll be working, rowing my waka and making bucks so you can get your dole and i can get richer. the 86.1% non-maori nzers don't have as high an opinion of maori as the maori minority do of themselves and most of us don't believe you have the right to freebie seats horiora and in case you hadn't noticed nz is a democracy and the party that is voted into parliament is the one that represents the wishes and the voice of the majority. most national and labour voters believe all nzers are equal and no group should have more rights than another. so walk till your feet bleed i don't care |
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By: newage@xtra.co.nz
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| I SAY AGAIN ALREADY passed you no understand waste of breath. BILL passed 13th this month DONE DEAL. only way out is case in high court, cost millions,the old boys club would close ranks on you, no win situation here,.? |
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By: mauriora1
15/05/2009
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You stick to your story Palladin
Im not gonna induldge in useless arguements with you.
You do what you please. You wanna take cheap shots at me and twist my words, Kapai!!
But this thread is about the Hikoi coming up in 10days time.
My whanau and community, mostly pakeha too, will all be there to march through Auckland and support the kaupapa to have maori seats at governance level. The justification for this is provided for your reading pleasure in the first 3 posts of this thread.
By supporting a kaupapa like the Hikoi, it gains way for other groups and organisations to have their say and make thier stand. And theres hundreds of groups out there who oppose the city for their own reasons. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
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| The bill has not been passed. The 13th was in relation to the second reading. Nothing can be finalised until the Royal Recommendations commission respond back to the forum. It is still pending until then. |
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By: mauriora1
15/05/2009
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Jacq
You never read the first 3 posts of this thread didnt you?
Well, you need to!!
Maori are the indigenous people of Aotearoa, NZ
That counts for everything!
Read the first 3 threads. |
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By: rangimarie@rocketmail.com
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| The abolishment of Maori seats has bought the article of the TOW into direpute hence the intervention of the RRC. |
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