By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| About benefit payments, now the bennys are crying that they dont get to see the tax cuts and that its so unfair that they get paid so much less than what working people do. What do you really think that you should get paid the same as someone who works all week? When will people get of their ar se and start taking responsibility for themselves. |
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13/10/2008
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| Whats you point? You think that everyone else should pay your way? I would tell you to scrub up but that might be to much like work I guess. |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| my guess is every bit as good as your's |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| What is your issue with my post exactly? Do you think that people that cant be bothered working should get paid the same as people that do work? Im not talking about people that genuinely cant work, Im talking about people that don't want to work 40 hours a week because they are to lazy. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| wow; reads like orange has turned pink heading towards red. |
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By: taniwha40
13/10/2008
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| i agree cripple-there are plenty if jobs down south on the farms and they are having get workers in from overseas because some kiwis are too lazy to work. and the unemployed should not get the same tax icrease as us who choose to work because we have families to feed. |
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By: november93rain
13/10/2008
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| I am sick of it too, not sure about anyone else but last year I think my tax was the equivalent of one benefit. It suxs when there are jobs to be had |
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By: lenamitchell@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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i fully agree with this post, its not right that we tax payers should pay for people to live a life of leisure. if somebody genuinely CANT work then thats fine, and i dont mind paying my tax for their benefit but when your too lazy to work and you think its somehow your right to be kept, then thats bulls.hit and you do not deserve tax cuts, at all.
i also think that solo mums on the benefit should get a tax cut but only if they are deserving, not if they are just popping out babys and getting p.issed every night. |
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By: glasspida
13/10/2008
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November, I thought you were offshore, do you still have to pay tax here in NZ? (not my area of expertise hence my question - but seems like a raw deal).
Cripple, I support your position. |
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By: young_vampyress
13/10/2008
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| Last count there were a whole 99 people in Taupo who were on the dole, and there are stacks of places down here looking for staff over the summer. Okay they might be fast food joints and cleaning jobs, but they're jobs. Come down here! |
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By: lenamitchell@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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theres a reason you dont get a heap of money when your on the benefit, its so you struggle your a.ss of and make a big effort to get a job.
when your a contributing member of society, thats when you deserve a tax cut |
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By: young_vampyress
13/10/2008
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"....if somebody genuinely CANT work then thats fine, and i dont mind paying my tax for their benefit..."
I have to agree with you there. The few people I know who are on disability benefits would've paid enough tax in their working lives to cover their own benefits anyway. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| Welfare and benefits are Labour govt. growth areas and the more it pays out the more taxes it has to collect. Don't be sucked in by their tax cuts because the funding for will eventually be paid by you the taxpayer. It's called a clawback. |
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By: yellowzigzag123
13/10/2008
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| my arguement with the beenfits, an it will keep surfacng until helen has adnmitted her part she played in defauding a person benefit. of money, legally intittled to, work related accident .ministry scial developements. deliberately mislead, the tribunal.of facts of ones private affair, helen told them to refuse ,because this one has to take then to the high court,.to fight the law, on ones rights,,and whos life and good health is helen extracting now,to run this country,our family aren not labour voters, and never will be, so stay out of our family life.and good health,.when ones in the public get discriminated against. over money from goverment departments,they legally intittled to, then ones will get a back lash from the public, es[ecially when it was pre planned and schemed by helen clarke to do it to one certain family in the public,helen exspect the public to spend the rest of their lives fighting the courts to have the law, heeded to,when one on lower levels could of handle it,they shouldn,t be in those jobs if they don,t undrstand a person rights of the law of the clauses that are written into helen clarkes and labours policy,i,m not on a benefit through chose, its because of the cover ups the discrimination ,the blaming by this nz goverment,and the part they played in refusing one complaints to be heard,in a proper and professional manner,untill somethings gets done about it,all those invovled know exactly what i,m talking about, |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| contributing member of soceity i feel your beleif system is not working for u how about having aholiday and kick back put ur heels up and rest on all your earnings |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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young_vampyress
Last count there were a whole 99 people in Taupo who were on the dole, and there are stacks of places down here looking for staff over the summer. Okay they might be fast food joints and cleaning jobs, but they're jobs. Come down here!
With a population of over 34000, I think your 99 people on UB is pretty low.Its not always as simple as it may seem to get the right person in the right job. I used to work for WINZ in the employment sector and as an example of what Im saying, had a great lady willing to do anything, but had severe dermatitis so couldnt clean, handle food etc.
Its not all about laziness. |
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By: gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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It's quite simple really.
If you want to work you go and find a job.
If you are unable to work because of a disability/sickness (proven) then the govt/society should support you.
If you don't want to work ....... you don't get a pharking cent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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By: anita.bishop@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| i'm not on a benefit but when i was i can tell you it wasn't easy, and furthermore, solo parents on a 'benefit' have to get off their 'ar ses' and do stuff for their children. babies and toddlers don't actually get their own food or change their own nappies. beneficiaries also have bills to pay just like you do, rent phone food power and other expenses. so of course they are going to moan about not getting a 'payrise'. |
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By: sativa_chiky
13/10/2008
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| I agree with some of your comment gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz. .except it should say "If you are able to work, go and get a job" =D |
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By: ropativ
13/10/2008
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| ....doubt if the government would have the current tax rate be decreased just because there's nobody on benefit....and I mean nobody! ......so much whingeing over nothing...! |
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By: b2myne@ymail.com
13/10/2008
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| part of my family works and yes we rely on partial benefit , we have personal reasons why i cant work but they are very valid ... i wish , i wont to go back to work but know i cant for a number of years to come . we are very thankful for the help we recieve . not all people dont want to work our reason was unforseen . |
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By: nomaza66
13/10/2008
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| Yes beneficiaries do indeed have bills to pay just like the rest of us do, but I would just like to ask you who pays those bills? |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| If a working person doesnt budget enough for food they cant just pop down for a food grant, need dental work fine here we will pay towards that too, wow you got a job interview here we will give you money for some clothes. If your on the dole and not out job hunting you should sit in a hall somewhere from 830 - 500 be sober and dressed appropriately and do nothing, not sitting at home watching sky or at a mates place having a few beers if you don't show up no money simple as that. |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| cripple the doorman on that door would have to be wearing coats of leather hahahahahahaha your suggestions r really off base |
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