By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| I take it you don't know what work is then? You must be proud |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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You have made some errors cripplem
Working families can get food grants, can get emergency dental work and can even in some instances get help with job interviews.
Unemployed are also required to attend different courses and if refuse may lose their entitlement to benefit. If they get food grants they are not permitted to buy alcohol or tobacco
with the order,
The first thing you have to do when getting on UB is attend a three week full day job search seminar.
Its not a cruisey time being on UB, it might have been years ago but its not now and hasnt been for some time. |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| To those families on lower incomes, go to see your local WINZ office to discuss extra support you may require. There is a pamphlet explaining extra assistance to working families also. |
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By: nomaza66
13/10/2008
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| What I find incredible is that WINZ will pay for almost anything, I know they pay for dental visits, groceries, cots, mattress, doctors visits, yes even clothes to go for a job interview. I have no problem with those that cannot work thru various reasons, its the ones that wont work that bother me |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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I think WINZ has been unfairly used as a punching bag for a lot of people who just have a gripe with the unemployed. WINZ are there for help for superannuiants, disabled and sickness beneficiaries as well as working families.
I worked with groups of unemployed people in the job search area and out of the hundreds I worked alongside I can honestly say maybe a handful had no intention of working. They were dealt with firmly and harshly.
I have not been on UB however I have seen the sadness, anger and damage to ones self-confidence when suddenly and usually through no fault of their own they are faced with unemployment. The powerlessness is overwhelming and it takes a fine casemanager to understand the shame a lot of people feel.
So if you are one of those that instill this un-necessary guilt onto others lets just hope it never happens to you. |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| A friend of mine used to work and winz and on Tuesday night we used to go to a quiz night at the casino and without fail there would be 10-20 beneficiaries on the floor or at the pokies, the next day she would have some of them coming in asking for grants. The cost of living for everyone has gone up and most peoples wages haven't kept pace yet every week they still go off to jobs they either love or hate. Im glad winz is getting tougher as long as its on the right people, but be honest with me how many people on the unemployment benefit spend close to 40 hours a week looking for work? |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| knoms u no nothing cause if u did your words would make sense u have a beleif that one day will be put to trial hahahahahahaha |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| I agree with you cripplem about the hours spent looking for work, and I would always push the view that when unemployed your job is to find a job. Knowing how to access all your resources in job search is the key, and of course in many smaller places in NZ its who you know not what you know. |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz Ive been laid off unexpectedly before, but it only took me a week to find another job, earlier this year I decided to leave my job and got four offers with even looking when they heard I was leaving. Maybe I am misinformed on the issue Ill be the first to admit that, but walking though any city on any given weekday there seams to be alot of people around that arent dressed for work. |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| so cripple your opinion is baised on a walk around town how very enlightening |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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If all unemployed people had a city to seek work from it would be sweet cripplem, but a lot of unemployed people live in the smaller rural areas where work is harder to find.
Congrats on your determination to seek further work and succeed. |
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By: kiwiglen111
13/10/2008
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You are probably lucky cripple. Being offered all those jobs without asking. Some people don't have the self esteem, or skills and just need a wee break. I know we are all equal, but we are not all born with equal work ethic or drive.(objectively speaking)
My Grandad, and Dad had and have allways been grafters. They worked thier whole lives through depressions, recessions, coups and all sorts, raising big families off thier wits, with no hand outs. I am cut from the same cloth. . It is in my DNA, but i think the issue of benefits, entitlements and subsidies is more complex than we could cover in a day or two.. -
I also walk around aimlessly in a pair of boardies, bare feet and a singie, people probably think i dont work, but im just down the PO Box grabbin the mail.. |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| Jamie thank-u for paying respect it quite literally sliped my mind hahahahahaha |
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By: ropativ
13/10/2008
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...and cripple...is it crippling not to report these "so called" beneficiaries who refused to work...?
..the air that sometimes spouts forth from your mouth is so bloody hot at times....! |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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kiwiglen
grabbin the mail
love it LOL |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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A friend of mine used to work and winz and on Tuesday night we used to go to a quiz night at the casino and without fail there would be 10-20 beneficiaries on the floor or at the pokies, the next day she would have some of them coming in asking for grants.
Just one last thing that concerned me was the friend discussing WINZ clients, very unprofessional. I would hope she made no direct identification to you. Severe reprimands for that behaviour in the department.
Sorry just one last thing that concerned me and that was your friend you spoke of that |
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By: jamie.kojak@xtra.co.nz
13/10/2008
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| sorry did something wrong with that post. |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| Its not my place to dob anyone in, If people want to cheat the system more power to them. People whine about the guys at traffic lights who wash windows now sure no doubt they get goverment funding and dont pay tax on their window earnings but at least they are out doing something. If every single woman decided to become a solo mum and every low income worker decided its not worth slaving for minimum wage for 40+ hours a week what would happen? Who would pay for it all? How many people that work here on the boards can afford sky? How many state houses have sky dishes on them? Now sure not all of the will be connected but I bet most of them are. Nothing is for free someone has to pay for it somewhere but I guess there is so much pride to be had being carried though your life. |
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By: kiwiglen111
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| I work, have sky (two connections, one for playhouse disney, and one dedicated to sport) - But yep i can't afford it so point taken. |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
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| She never use to name them or directly point them out she would just look around the gaming floor and count the ones she knew, I was the only none winz worker on our quiz team the other five where case managers and this was a few years ago. |
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By: ropativ
13/10/2008
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| ....well cripple...your topic is very apt - to me - to you....I'm sick of hearing you whine...when you don't do the proper thing....maybe you're not sick of hearing.....because you're so full of hot air....why, if you know someone who is doing it, it's your bloody responsibility to dob that person...that will relieve you of your sickness....your breath smells of stale onions... |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| crippon birds of a feather flock together least u no where to go when u wont a benny aahahahhh1111!!!!!! |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
13/10/2008
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| Orange get with the plot and stop smoking it and ropativ if you dont like it and its upsetting you dont click on the post its quite simple really, internet 101 if you dont like it dont click it. |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
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| I'm guessing neither of you work? |
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By: orange_roughie
13/10/2008
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| crippon i do like it and i like to click your sweet switch to |
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