By: ron.tristram@ymail.com
23/11/2008
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| jaquie. I cannot imagine you getting an apology, these god-botherers know they are always right. Arrogant buggerz |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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You are right I am having an affair. have been for years and years and years. Same guy. Probably always will continue to see him.
But thats something I talk about with my counsellor and pastor friend.
I actually took the time today to explain a bit about my health to you. Don't know if you saw the post - might have been after you left this morning.
I enjoy these discussions mike and what I explained to you is that I am on invalids for rapid cycling bipolar with psychosis. I can get very wound up with it and its not helpful when things turn nasty.
So either you and I wipe the slate clean or we ignore each other. You telling me I lie all the time is upsetting me. We have different opinions on the truth. I could say you lie every time you quote the bible. which to me is a lie. But I dont.
I need more respect from you or please leave me be. |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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| keep up ron .. apology for an error in recalling exactly what tok said an estimated 1000 post ago, has already been given .. |
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By: ron.tristram@ymail.com
23/11/2008
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| and you, mike, laugh about an insult you have offered to jaquie? You consider what you have said...funny? And you wonder why nobody likes you? In the words of Gollum..."You haven't got any friends....Nobody likes YOU" Not nice at all....presciousssss, eh? |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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i leave you be when you stop posting lies . if you dont wish to have a lie pointed out then dont post them .simple .
i think you believe that God is . but you refuse to be obedient to him . but then you may not be able to as you are a slave to sin and slaves dont fully have freewill. |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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i'll leave you be when you stop posting lies . if you dont wish to have a lie pointed out then dont post them .simple .
i think you believe that God is . but you refuse to be obedient to him . but then you may not be able to as you are a slave to sin and slaves dont fully have freewill. |
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By: dirtysouthagain
23/11/2008
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rixatcrf - firstly, thank you soo much for replying, I appreciate the attempt you have made on my questions, however, the very fact that human beings "do wrong" is admission that god was not perfect, surely you can see that? Saying the below -
<< God did create everything perfect. However, as previously mentioned, He also gave us free will >>
Free will I understand, but from perfection ONLY perfection can derive, unless as I have stated, your god is NOT perfect, you can NOT state one as fact, without being in conflict with yourself over the other.
<< 3. That 'religious' people probably wouldn't care too much if at all. However, someone who has a relationship with God will >>
So you are saying that YOU know better than god? Why should YOU care when this is after all "gods will"? It is in his plan, what right do you have to feel sympathy, empathy, disgust or disdain, for any tragic event that has occurred in human history? Remembering that your god created "all" so this MUST include by deinition "evil", yes? |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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| cool i got an echo hehe |
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By: dirtysouthagain
23/11/2008
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<< For some this is a more fitting punishment than just a few years in prison dont you think >>
NO. I think of this as totally repugnant, and that you would suggest that this is fitting punishment for ANY so called earthly sin shows to me a complete lack of free thought. The "person" (of whom I have NO DOUBT was indeed human) who concocted this sickening thought was NOT of sane mind...simply could not have been!!! To suggest your loving god was the architect behind this defies belief and all reason.
<<< You see, if you have children, do you want them to love and obey you just because you tell them to >>
Let us separate this question.
Love, I want love via free will, and this love will be forthcoming by way of reciprocation for MY love shown to them (until they are teenagers anyway lol).
Obey, because I TELL THEM TO, because IF I TELL THEM TO, then you can be damn sure there is a good reason (of which I would also explain). It would be a mistake to bundle them together, as one is an emotion, the other is just a verb, or an adverb, I forget now, whatever the case, they ARE mutually exclusive. You can "obey' someone because you love them, but you can NOT "love" simply because you must obey them. |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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| Mike I should be free to talk on this thread with ron and paul and mar and others without you annoying me. Please leave me alone. |
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By: ron.tristram@ymail.com
23/11/2008
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| Well, as far as keeping up goes...in case you don't know, there is a life outside of arguing with weirdo's like you. |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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| Oh and dirtysouth. Hi again |
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By: ron.tristram@ymail.com
23/11/2008
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me to god: Shan't!!!!!!!!!
god to me: RIGHT!!!! [SMASH!!!!] Disobedient lil microbe!!! I will teach you, oh, yes [stokes up the fires ready for this tiny tiny organism] |
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By: dirtysouthagain
23/11/2008
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<< but because I know Jesus personally >>
Have you got his phone number? My "prayline" is on the blink. I really do have some things i would like to hit him up about.
<< God so loves each one of us, Jesus came and paid the price for our sin >>
Did he? How did he do that? God supposedly sent Jesus to earth to die for our sins right? This was his intention? |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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Roasting on lucifers fork! Ouch. Does anyone have any concept of eternity? Imagine we are given an average of 70 years on this earth to base our eternity on. I don't think so some how.
If there is a loving God my guess is we have more than this life to learn about him. Especialy for the slow learners like myself. |
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By: dirtysouthagain
23/11/2008
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<< If God is perfect (and all knowing, and all powerful, and all loving...I think I've got everything we've covered!) then why could he not create a being capable of imperfection? This is basically the gist of the question I have been asking paul. Perhaps you can answer instead? >>
Perfection CAN NOT MAKE imperfection, think about it? |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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| And especially given God keeps himself hidden away and his only contact with us is via a bible that even the schoolers dont agree on. Make you question "does he really want to know us" then why isnt he down here walking on water. |
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By: desertrose144
23/11/2008
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Hi dirtysouthagain, I had a shot at your questions on another thread as I did not want it to be lost on this fast-moving thread. If you are interested it is called something like answers for dirtysouthagain.
Maybe you have seen it and have chosen to ignore it, that is okay too as I found it a good exercise. |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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I beleive in Jesus . i do not believe only because i was told but because having applied the truth of his words He has proven himself to me by the effectual working of his power in my life .
this is very good news . that whoever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life .and that in Christ Jesus you will have life and that ,abundantly . |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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| shyte I am really gutted that mike made that remark that Im having an affair with a pastor@Q! then he accuses me of lying about it and then he laughs it off with a pathetic attempt at an apology. What an ar.se.hole he is to me. |
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By: rhotzeen
23/11/2008
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@ron.tristram "damn, I am glad none of my friends are like that!!!"
fairy tale? family business with a ghost? neverland? I suggest you come to our christian service and find out the truth for yourself. It's a friendly invitation. Take your friends with you too.. |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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and then he apologized for being wrong about the bit about it being a pastor
and then you asked him to leave you alone and then
..he did ,,
and then..
you bought it up again insulting him and calling him names |
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By: dirtysouthagain
23/11/2008
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<< he heals , he restores , he rebuilds , he takes that which is stolen from us and gives it back and with interest so to speak lol. Jesus is so very wonderful >>>
I think i'm going to puke, he did ALL THIS for you, yet let's others suffer in misery for their entire earthly existence, hmmm, you people are unbelievable in your vanity and hypocrisy sometimes. |
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By: mike_f596
23/11/2008
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| dirty south ,, if other choose to not beleive and resist this same love offered , who is to blame . the one who offers or the one who refuses that which is offered ? |
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By: tokoroajaq
23/11/2008
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Mike I asked if you will leave me alone and stop calling me a liar and you didnt say you will leave me alone at all.
ANd I even took the time to write out about my health for you again to help you to udnerstand but you didnt reply to that. YOU just said you will keep pointing out to me if I am lying. |
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