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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
12/09/2008
11:50 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
where do i get this mark/implant

By: mike_f596
12/09/2008
11:52 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
consider carefully ... you wont get to choose between God and your own opinions you will be forced to choose between obeying God or obeying the beast . sad time for the athiest , but they will crumple fairly quickly

If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark on the forehead or on the hand, he, too, will drink of the wine of God's fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. He will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment rises for ever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or for anyone who receives the mark of his name." 12This calls for patient endurance on the part of the saints who obey God's commandments and remain faithful to Jesus.

By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
12/09/2008
11:54 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
your god isnt very merciful, is he

By: mike_f596
12/09/2008
11:57 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
his mercy is in his word ,, for who ever calls on the lord Jesus , the word of god made flesh , shall be saved .. this is the immeasurable love of god in that why we were dead in sinning ,,he loved us and died on our behalf and was raised from the dead by the glory of god , that in him our sins are washed away and in him as he lives we too may live ... to reject this love ,this great mercy is ones own choice .but to those that reject this gift of love there remains only righteous indignation and judgment .. the way out is open the love is free to all

By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
12:08 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
i think i'd prefer a star on my belly. what do you sneetches think?

By: china_couple
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
It's not a mark Mike-It's an implant

Didn't we already establish that?

What's the matter? Didn't God know the difference when he gave John the vision?

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
12:14 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
ahh riiight its not the mark .. it only goes in the right arm (im yet to find out why ) and the credit card companies are developing it so that it can be used to buy and sell ... oh but just because its exactly as the bible states doesn't mean its exactly as the bible states ...

still , never to mind , truth can never be changed by opinion and this is the love God has for you - that he loves you so much he laid down his life for you .. and whoever believes in the lord Jesus will not perish but have everlasting life ... those who don't believe are already perishing

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
12:17 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
whoa, bed time .. im not worried i beleive , and for me to live is to live in Christ and to die is gain for i get to live in Christ :) nite all

By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
quit with the readings already, mike. we are able to read the bible for ourselves, and we'd actually rather hear your own thoughts

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
12:31 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
hey im trying to get to bed here haha .. well they are my thoughts i am in 100 percent agreement with the bible .

I still havnt found out why even the companies selling these early forms of it insist on the RIGHT arm ..they never mention the left , has to be based on a medical reason i guess .. any med students out there ?

i did find this interesting snipet

"ore recently, at the Baja Beach Club in Barcelona, Spain, customers began paying for drinks with the wave of their hand, having each received a microchip implant for ID and payment purposes. Chipped members are able to breeze past a “reader” that verifies their identity and links it to their current credit balance, and even automatically opens doors to exclusive areas of the club for them. They can then buy food and drinks with a wave of their hand and don’t need to worry about losing a credit card or wallet."

a convenience that will sell your soul forever to eternal torment .

ok this time im gone :P

By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
5:16 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
morning mike f596...coffee and strawberries is it?

perhaps cheesecake, or a revised history lesson, Have a great day Mike!!

By: erlwilliam
13/09/2008
6:26 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
For those whom believe that Jesus was not only a man just as I believe that Alexander the Great was also a man it is not to difficult to accept really. Also it does not need 10 years of research to come to that conclusion. For those who that Jesus was a man and not only that but .... a Godman that is the real issue, and to believe that!! is not based on whether you have a IQ of 130 or what ever or a 10 year stint in theological study. that will not necessarily bring such a person to the truth. You can come to the conclusion of who he really was very quickly at times and without doing any short theologic courses etc. Like crew members of an American battle ship that was sunk in the Coral shark infested waters during that last WW2 and were hanging on to floating objects and each other were encouraged by a believeing officer ... many were lost to sharks and many were given hope (living hope) to hang on regardless to a person called Jesus, very difficult environment to be able to hang on to anything actually for long and atheism would soon slip through their minds as being of any value I might add like hanging on to the hull of a sinking ship. I would not think that topic of "if there was an existing bloodline of Jesus" would not have been the topic of conversation either. I would be almost certain that matter of "the blood of Jesus enables men to be cleaned for all sin" with the confession of their inherent sinfulness would most likely have been spoken of. Also if any atheists present would most likely taken an more broader view and open hearted approach to the value of such a theory in the bigger picture

By: angelofdeth2008
13/09/2008
6:27 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
I suppose the happy clappers have to believe in something, cause they sure as in hell dont believe in themselves.

By: flowers67@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
good on you for believing in something

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
8:32 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
erlwilliam : if i believed Jesus was only a man then i wouldnt beleive "IN" Jesus . i would not have absolute faith in him to preform everything he has promised by giving me eternal life .I would not have experienced the power of God in my life . The reason, we must remember ,that people "do" beleive is the fact that he has proven himself to us .

This truth remains the most wonderfully good news you can ever hear . God loved us so much that he spoke from the depths of his heart to save us and his word (the same word by which he created all things )became flesh and his name is JESUS (Yeshua) . He took on himself the consequence of our sin , the death that is our lot ,and he was punished for OUR guilt and was slain for OUR sin.

and has risen again to life by the power of God .
Who ever believes in him will live even as he lives . such is Gods amazing love towards us . To reject this great gift is to remain in the present state of awaiting the death and punishment that is already upon us ..

By: roneil@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Oh yes HE does
You had better believe it

By: roneil@xtra.co.nz
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Well I believe in myself and know that Jesus loves me

By: thejanitor46
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
I wasn't here at the time, so jesus died for his own sins, not mine.

By: china_couple
13/09/2008
8:45 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
Erl. I think I speak for many of us when I say that I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Were you drunk when you wrote that?
Are you trying to say that because a bunch of sailors were faced with almost certain death and suddenly
"believed" that this proves Jesus is real?

Or are you saying that the fact people suddenly believe when faced with death proves that in his fear of dying mankind has invented religion to calm his nerves?

Maybe you better have anther stab at it once you've sobered up eh?

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
10:10 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
This truth remains the most wonderfully good news you can ever hear . God loved us so much that he spoke from the depths of his heart to save us and his word (the same word by which he created all things )became flesh and his name is JESUS (Yeshua) . He took on himself the consequence of our sin , the death that is our lot ,and he was punished for OUR guilt and was slain for OUR sin.

and has risen again to life by the power of God .
Who ever believes in him will live even as he lives . such is Gods amazing love towards us . To reject this great gift is to remain in the present state of awaiting the death and punishment that is already upon us ..

repost for janitor :) ..being as god is eternal , he already knew you before you were born as eternity transcends the limits of time

By: wheresmymarbles63
13/09/2008
10:15 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
mike..............I found you ;-) I knew it. I was right.................... ..............You're here....

I only came to say...I believe in Jesus Christ Superstar, who wears frilly knickers and a playtex bra, da da.........

But there you are, you are a bible nut............*Wearing a big grin* LOL................I knew it......

The world came into existence 6000 yrs ago, God put Adam and steve in eden, and they lived happily with all the dinosaurs................ HA HA HA...........You've made my day.............glad I came here.............HA HA HA.

Thanks Mike.honestly I mean no offence to you..............but you've confirmed my thoughts and I can now go forth with a big grin on my face............

Jonah lived in a whale..yeah right.....
Life is a complicated puzzle.............nah, my God is pure love and that's all.................He does like circles though, lifes one big circle.............I like circles.........

By: wheresmymarbles63
13/09/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Hey mike, as you're in 100% agreement with the bible then you believe tha jonah lived in a whale, and Noah got the Lion and lamb onto the ark 2 by 2.............And you know sometimes I think I'm nuts.........LOL

By: mike_f596
13/09/2008
10:33 am

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lol , well marbles , lets clarify , i never said that the world is 6000 years old , you assumed i did , i said there is no proven reliable evidence of any dug up civilization being older then 6000 yrs due to the fact carbon dating is purl;y speculation after the 2 to 3 thousand year time frame of limited accuracy.

all the clean and unclean animals were bought to the ark ... not sure about what happened to others and I wont pretend to know . the bible speaks also of flesh eating creatures that "devoured the flesh of the land ".. the thing is is it is irrelevant to the over all message of love and very good news .

hmm jonah and the whale ... he was not alone in the experience , i must research into that .. iv heard tell of other humans being swallowed by large mammals of the sea and surviving due to air in the belly of the mammal .

By: wheresmymarbles63
13/09/2008
4:51 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
mike - the bible speaks also of flesh eating creatures that "devoured the flesh of the land ".. the thing is is it is irrelevant to the over all message of love and very good news .

Yes mike I agree, the bible is irrelevant........

By: kaituna2003
13/09/2008
5:28 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
No i don't....Believe in J.....

hey" roneil.. you mean ...
"You love yourself and believe in jesus"

Can't love someone you've never seen or met...
All hear say , with word's written by man...
Is that not hard enough to believe......Huh..
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