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By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
8:36 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
and you will take your next breath wether you wish to or not , you may delay it for a time .but sooner or later you will succumb and take your next breath , because it is the mercy of God that you do so and your non belief will not stop it from being so . you will breath out .. and in again

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
8:39 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
and you may say that I saw the light the last time i stepped out of that church, which had cooked me up for so long....Actually, I have been back since and I felt like visiting a zoo....I was looking at these spieces different to me, feeling sorry for them - the lack of room and knowledge of what life is out in the open.

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
8:42 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
I will take my next breath because I do not have intention on committing suicide. When I do not take a breath again, then thats either due to the fact that I died of something fatal...you know, it happens all the time! It is proven and in fact WRITTEN!

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
8:42 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
The one who comes from above is above all;
the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth, and speaks as one from the earth.
The one who comes from heaven is above all.
He testifies to what he has seen and heard,
but no one accepts his testimony.

The man who has accepted it has certified that God is truthful.
For the one whom God has sent speaks the words of God,
for God gives the Spirit without limit.
The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands.

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life,
but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him.


(again - i dont post it to debate it , but to make it known that , "that" is what the bible says .

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
8:44 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
yes it is a proven fact .. if you do not breath your body dies . and you will take yet another breath , because it is the mercy of God that you do so whether you believe so or not .

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
8:46 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
absolute nonsense!
Or, not entirely...'the one who is from the earth belongs to the earth and speaks as one from the earth...that sounds about right. I come from the earth, I belong here, till the day I die and I do in fact speak as one from here, due to the fact that I am not an alien from another plante...belive it or not, but I am not an alien :0

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
8:47 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Yes, often that will happen when people die and its proven that they are actually dead, their body will take a last breath which is due to the mussel contractions after death...its a muscular thing, not god.

By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz
26/11/2008
8:48 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Hey mike.....have you not 'come to the end of yourself 'yet ? hahaha nite .I cannot listen to this anymore.Its the same stuff ,over and over again.yaaawn

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
by the confession of your own mouth

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
8:50 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
now you are talking in toungues mike, did not understand that. Anyway, need to go find my daughters brithcertificate for tomorrow morning...

By: realityzgreat
26/11/2008
8:53 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
In the news 2 days ago ..

"A New Zealand woman is launching a compensation claim against a diocese in New South Wales for alleged sexual abuse by the late Father Denis McAlinden.
The abuse allegedly occurred after McAlinden was sent to New Zealand during the 1980s, the Newcastle Herald reported.
Solicitor Kate Maher confirmed she had been contacted by the New Zealand woman, whose name has not been released publicly.
Maitland-Newcastle Bishop Michael Malone issued a statement in October 2007 saying McAlinden was a serial child sex offender over nearly five decades, and was wanted by police for alleged child sex offences at the time of his death in 2005.
The Herald said it was aware of at least 20 victims.
It investigated the priest with the help of an Australian activist group, Broken Rites, which was told a girl aged 10 in Western Australia's parish at Wickham complained of being sexually abused by the priest in 1982.
By 1984 the priest was "on loan" to the Diocese of Hamilton, in the Waikato, where he did "supply" (relieving work) in rural parishes."

and the stock reply of the believers, they will be judged when they stand before god or god moves in mysterious ways

By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz
26/11/2008
8:53 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
nite mike ,I'll send my mate satan 666 ,to pay you a visit.He can introduce you to life.hahahaha .

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
8:55 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
end of myself .??. self ..is not what it is about , self is what the self centered care for ..

if i cared for myself i would not be here day after day being mocked , insulted ,made fun of ,degraded by others, falsely accused ,and given a constant deluge of cruel nasty hurtful insinuations and then also have that which i hold dearest to my heart , rubbished and berated in the most insidious fashion with absolutely no regard to my feelings nor respect to myself as a person .

but all these things are nothing when i am in the tangible presence of the lord Jesus and his love washes over me in waves of unending peace filling my heart , my inner being , with such joy that at times there are no words to express the wonder of it ..

so i lay self down to share this wonderful love that is available to any one who would simply believe in JESUS

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Reality...I am affraid that there are way too many of simular things going on, we see it so often. But the Christians always has some sort of excuse. Just go to Church next sunday and you will be forgiven sort of thing :-(

By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz
26/11/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Its an advert on TV Mike ,about one of your TV church services....
hahaha.He says "have you come to the end of yourself ?' .....I think he means something else. I think his 'organ' is really small.

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
9:01 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
realityzgreat: you generalize .. my response to your post is widely known and not new .. the roman catholic church is a man made organization of the most foul , evil and insidious nature as ever i have seen in the world of man made organizations .It has nothing to do with the truth and if you read the bible you wil see that clearly . The only mention in the bible of that organization is in the book of revelations as the prostitute of Babylon that is enthroned on seven hills ( Rome is on seven hills, as is the Vatican in rome )and calls herself the queen of heaven and other names of blaphemy ..and god is going to destroy her in one day .

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
9:03 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Mike, do not take others opinion personally - its a matter of difference in opinion after all. I bet you that if you were sat infront of many of us, you would actually like us and the other way around too....but its not always the case of agreeing. I have good friends, which I do not agree with in sertain things - that does not make us hate eachother, it makes for interesting conversation at times!

By: realityzgreat
26/11/2008
9:05 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
mike, hardly a generalisation when so many similar cases can be presented representing all of the different 'faiths'

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
9:07 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
And Mike, I agree that the catolics are amongst the worst. Can I ask you a thing? How do you look upon babtishm om babies?

By: sisselkeaton
26/11/2008
9:08 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Pardon my spelling again...but you should see how easy it is to spell that in my own language ;-)

By: mike_f596
26/11/2008
9:14 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
lol ..its called forgiving others . if i didnt i could not remain here , as i already know that the very thing i forgive , will be done to me again tomorrow by another or the same .but as i have been freely forgiven , so i freely forgive . ( to forgive means -to me - to relinquish the right to see justice & the penalty of it dished out to those that have wronged me .)
everyone has that right .. it is what justice is .God has that right also .. we have all wronged him , he has the right to dish out absolute punishment .

if some one nailed your child ..the delight of your eye , to a tree you would know in the sense of inner justice that you have the right to fully punish the one who did that to your own child .

yet it is in this state that God chooses to not punish but give oppurtunity of escape from the justice that must come .
for god cannot lie , he said , if you eat of the tree of the knowledge of god and evil .. you will surely die .

these words will ultimately be fulfilled , justice for wrong done will be met .

but God has made one way of escape .. he died that death on our behalf .those that believe it and enter through that way .. enter into mercy and life .. those that do not , continue on the path to justice that they are already on .. god does not put us there , we choose it .

By: realityzgreat
26/11/2008
9:15 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
someone recently wrote

"Well RON I have read them and the reason why is as follows...I unlike you who basically is wasting his life since leaving the military and has never ever done anything that anyone can really say has counted for anything, except for mucking around on these sites,
I am trained in ministry, teach scripture, translate Greek, Hebrew and latin.
Worked for many years after leaving the NAVY/ARMY/AIRFORCE yep I was in all three in the uk, was also a military chaplain.

Quals are as follows
DIP BS - Diploma Bible studies
BMIN - Bachelor Ministries
BTHEOL - Bachelor Theology
BDIV/BD - Bachelor Divinity"

those qualifications would seem to be really relevant in the real world ?

By: bill.griffin@ymail.com
26/11/2008
9:16 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
I used to go to church every week. Now, I'm not too sure about religion

By: realityzgreat
26/11/2008
9:20 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
bill, what has caused you to have doubts ?

By: quintensmith@rocketmail.com
26/11/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
i go to sunday school
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