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17/09/2008
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| Good morning Mike f596. Have a great day... :D |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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Good Morning Pigpot.
You have a nice day, and you did not need to be so hateful, come on now be friendly and stop being a bully...
acceptance and difference irrespective of whether you believe or not....I am a non believer per say...and if possible if truly possible...dont shout it reeks of oppression!! feel the loooove.... |
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By: listicgower
17/09/2008
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hi there nicolte,
interesting questions you ask, if u are really interested in the answers they are in the bible themselves. yes god is perfect and man is not. at the beginning man rebelled against god, he gave us freewill, that also meant choices. man chose not tolisten to gods warning and is now faces the consquenses. god always gave peopple a chance but people didnt want to change. i disagree about the wrld being at its worse now, just look into history and it is disgusting. man,woman has not changed their ways and have done and still do act hately and selfishly against each other. |
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By: aniciobugtong
17/09/2008
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| Your question is very interesting. Because God so loved us, He created us as free moral agent. If you are a parent, you can explain this easily. Say you will give a good toy to your child because you love him very much. He can do whatever he wants for that toy. Incidentally,your child used that toy to knock his playmate down, what would you do? A loving parents will punish (I prefer the word discipline) that child. The sins of people during Noah is so great if you will reckon, I won't be mentioning them anyway and deserve great punishment. He can do that, He is God anyway. God is god and we can not fully comprehend His infinite mind because we've got a finite mind. While it is true that there are so many good people but those good people are not perfect. They still sin and maybe a total of 70,000 sins at the age of 70. That is why He gave Jesus to save us because we can not save our selves. |
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By: stompaah
17/09/2008
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| We are not living in Gods world at this present time.Satan has control over many lost souls in this world-hence the lack of faith that is prevalent in these times.God did not create war.War was created thru mans greed and lack of compassion and love for one another,thats all God asks of us-to love each other!!!Simple aye-oh yeah by the way we are all born perfect in fact everything is perfect.And that my good friends is the secret to life and Gods gift to us all-Jah Blessings to you all |
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By: machint@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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| I'm not a believer. |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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nicolte
MY REPLY IN CAPS:
1. I have a question. The world is in a state of despair like no age gone before it.
A. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE WORLD IS THE PLACE THAT IT IS, IS BECAUSE WE DON'T VOTE THE RIGHT PEOPLE & THE RIGHT PARTIES INTO POLITICAL POWER & COMMUNITY POSITIONS. THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THE DECISIONS THEY MAKE AFFECT THE SPIRITUAL WELLBEING OF OUR VARIOUS NATIONS & THE WORLD AS WHOLE.
B. GOD WANTS TO BLESS & HELP US, BUT HE CAN'T IF WE'RE TO UNBELIEVING, HARDHEARTED & STIFFNECKED!
C. I THINK THE FOLLOWING QUOTE SUMS IT UP FOR US ALL:
"If there is righteousness in the heart,
there will be beauty in the character.
If there is beauty in the character,
there will be harmony in the home.
If there is harmony in the home,
there will be order in the nation.
If there is order in the nation,
there will be peace in the world".
2. Did not god once create a flood to punish mankind for evil?
D. THAT IS CORRECT MANKIND BECAME SO WICKED HE WIPED THEM OUT! & HE'S GONNA DO IT AGAIN BEFORE HIS 2ND SECOND WHICH IS NOT FAR AWAY! & IT WON'T BE FLOOD.
3. God gave us free will, the power to choose whether we will believe in him or not (albeit with certain uncomfortable consequences if you do not), but a choice none the less, and totally left to our own devices.
E. YES THAT'S TRUE!
So tell me, what was this flood all about?
F. YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION YOURSELF!
And can ANYONE honestly say that Noah and his family were the ONLY good humans left on earth?
ONE NEEDS A ROCK SOLID TESTIMONY THAT THE SCRIPTURES ARE THE WORD OF GOD. WHICH CAN ONLY COME TO YOU (IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST) BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST! ONCE YOU HAVE THAT PERSONAL WITNESS, THEN YOU KNOW FOR YOURSELF WITHOUT DOUBT THAT THERE WERE ONLY 8 THAT SURVIVED THE FLOOD.
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By: richardmarsters@rocketmail.com
17/09/2008
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Hi Greg
Believing in Jesus as our saviour alone will not save us, we have to obey His commandments too.
Is the Ten Commandment applicable to us today, or has that been taken away when Christ died on the cross |
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By: richardmarsters@rocketmail.com
17/09/2008
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Hi Machin
I dont believe in abuse either tho I know its very much part of our lives.
Just as you believe theres no God tho you know Hes there, otherwise you wouldnt know whats right from wrong.
He put it there in your heart and mind so you can chose for yourself, which in your case just proved He is real by saying you dont believe theres a God.
By choice determined your life |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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| Hi Richard Marsters. Just to answer your question very briefly..When Jesus came he did not do away with the ten commandments he |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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| The ten commandments have not been done away with. Jesus came to fulfil it..(The New Covenant)..( sorry for previous posting..pressed wrong button..) |
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By: yellowzigzag123
17/09/2008
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| there more to the bible then just reading it,and if one reads parts of the bible that not in there family tree well ones minds get confused, they bring other cultures, family tree in on them, each part of the bible represents, differant family trees.on ,of mistakes against others. families,of which ones families have already corrected,down the generation. |
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By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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pigpot.
It certainly is not rubbish..I feel so sorry for you.
Do you know the Bible is so up to date in every thing it say's.
Because I care very much for people and I feel very concerned for you.
You certainly seemed to have made up your mind where you stand .
I thnk the Bible has proved itself over and over.
God loved you and died for all of us so that we may have life eternal.
Yes there is only one true God. |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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Which bible do you read Ziggy?
I am confused..lol..lol..
So if you give me your reference I will research it... |
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By: richardmarsters@rocketmail.com
17/09/2008
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Hi pigpot
Nothing can convience a pig but taste nice in a pot of boil-up with watercres, and puha...lol
To prove there is a God will take forever specially in your case, as youve chosen to counter positive with negative.
Anyway pork-bones boil-up is certainly a must on a Sunday morning.. wooohooo |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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gam.wilson:
surely you jest. come on now admit it, the reference that zig agz is fererring to is the walk of ifel from their xperienseses, do you understand onw??? |
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By: richardmarsters@rocketmail.com
17/09/2008
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Hi gam
Thank you, I thought He didnt either, but why are there so many interpretations |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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And yet he did not intervene in WWI or WWII, really could have with his divine intervention round about then?
G. IF YOU'RE ENQUIRING AS TO WHY GOD DIDN'T SEND A FLOOD DURING WW1 & WW2?
H. FIRSTLY THE BOOK OF GENESIS 9:13-16 TELLS US THAT AFTER THE FLOOD WATERS HAD ABATED GOD MADE A COVENANT WITH MAN & EVERY LIVING CREATURE UPON THE EARTH THAT HE WOULD NO MORE FLOOD THE ENTIRE EARTH ALL AT ONCE. HE PLACED THE RAINBOW TO REMIND US & HIM OF HIS SACRED PROMISE!
I. THERE WERE A LOT OF RIGHTEOUS PEOPLE (AS THERE ARE NOW) LIVING DURING WW1 & WW2. FROM WHICH MANY OF US ARE DESCENDED. AM SURE MANY GOOD PEOPLE DIED DURING BOTH WARS & MANY OTHER WARS!
J. MANY GOOD & RIGHTEOUS PERSONS HAVE DIED BY THE HANDS OF WICKED MEN. THE LATTER ULTIMATELY SEALING THEIR TESTIMONIES OF CHRIST IN THEIR OWN BLOOD.
K. THE SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST HIMSELF BEEN THE ULTMATE!
So tell me, does god contradict himself?
L. NO HE NEVER DOES, WE JUST FAIL TO UNDERSTAND THE DEPTH OF HIS WISDOM, BRILLIANCE & OMNIPOTENCE! HIS WAYS ARE JUST!
Surely not, as he is perfect is he not?
M. AMEN!
And if HE is perfect, and HE created US, why are WE not all perfect?
O. IN OUR PRE EARTH LIFE WITH HIM. (THERE ARE NUMEROUS SCRIPTURAL REFERENCES THAT TESTIFY OF OUR PRE MORTAL EXISTENCE, ONE OF THEM IS FOUND IN ECCLESIASTES 12:7, THERE AE OTHER LATTER DAY REVELATIONS CONCERNING THIS MATTER) WE SAW THAT HE HAD A BODY OF FLESH & BONES & WANTED TO BE LIKE HIM. SO AFTER ACCEPTING THE PLAN OF SALVATION (PRESENTED TO OUR HEAVENLY FATHER BY JESUS CHRIST (AKA JEHOVAH IN THE OLD TESTAMENT)) OUR UNMEBODIED ((I.E) A SPIRIT WITHOUT A PHYSICAL BODY) SPIRITS CAME TO EARTH INTO OUR FAMILIES TO RECEIVE A MORTAL BODY. A VEIL WAS PLACED OVER OUR MINDS SO THAT WE WOULDN'T REMEMBER THINGS FROM OUR PRE EARTH LIFE (PRE MORTAL EXISTENCE) & WE BY FAITH WOULD TRAVEL THIS EARTHLY PROBATIONARY STATE TO BE TRIED & TESTED. |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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CONTINUED FROM LAST POST:
P. & THAT WHEN GOD SENDS CERTAIN MISSIONARIES TO KNOCK ON OUR HOME DOORS, WE'D BE HOSPITABLE ENOUGH TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS SENT THEM HERE TO TELL US!
Q. UPON ACCEPTING THAT MESSAGE & RECEIVING MUCH JOY IN OUR HEARTS WE ARE ONLY TO HAPPY TO FOLLOW & OBEY JESUS CHRIST!
GOD BLESS! |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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Hi Richard,
Amen brother!
& yes the 10 commandments & numerous other principles are applicable today even as they were in the days of Adam.
Kind regards |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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Oh Richard,
May I say that latter day revelation states that all men will be saved EXCEPT THE SONS (PROBABLY DAUGHTERS TOO) OF PERDITION!
There's a difference between salvation & exaltation.
God bless! |
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By: greg19767
17/09/2008
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Oh NICOLTE,
Sorry forgot to add that once we've taken the bull by horns & trul submitted our will to the will of god, we are truly on the road to perfection.
Jesus after his resurrection once said: "be ye therefore perfect even as I or your father in heaven is perfect"
How we can be prefect in somethings:
1. If you go to church, be on time & never miss till you leave this world.
2. If you pay tithes & offerings never miss paying them.
& the list goes on.
But to be perfect like god requires hardwork & is an eternal process intiated in the pre existence when we accepted the plan of salvation.
God bless! |
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By: richardmarsters@rocketmail.com
17/09/2008
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hiya Greg,
Im a bit confussed with what you said about our pre-existence, or living in spirit prior to living in this mortal body. If I was living in spirit and see the conflicts, and turmoil this world is at present, I will definately protest not to become human.
We are the original of God's master-piece, His handy work.
He created us from the dirt of the earth with His Hands, and put nothing else into this human model except the breath of life, and this clay man became a living being.
Ecclesiates 12;7 is referring to that same breath of life God put into the clay man when he was created. God created man to enjoy life in his God's made home.(tho that wasnt the case)
To say we live in pre-existence prior to the spirit taking human body is not a Bible teaching. |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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Hi Marj
lol...lol...I am trying out tolerance and patience as well as exercising discretion..You are not being helpful lol..lol....I am spreading the love here.. Now I am never gonna know what this reference is..Thanks to you..lol...lol...lol... |
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By: tainui2003@xtra.co.nz
17/09/2008
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Hi Richard,
Im a bit confussed.with what you said about our pre-existence, or living in spirit prior to living in this mortal body.
IT'S A FACT RICHARD & THERE'S NOTHING TO BE CONFUSED ABOUT.
We are the original of God's master-piece, His handy work.
He created us from the dirt of the earth with His Hands,
AMEN TO THAT!
YOU'RE CORRECT ON THE CLAY/DIRT & BREATH BUT NOT THE ANYTHING ELSE! WE WERE CREATED IN HIS IMAGE, OUR SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST EXEMPLIFIED THIS! HE SAID HIMSELF (JOHN 6:38): "I CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN ...."
WHERE HE LIVED WITH US AS A SPIRIT.
LATTER REVELATION HAS EXPOUNDED ECCESIASTES 12:7 QUOTE:
"Then shall the dust (OUR PHYSICAL BODIES FROM WHENCE THEY WERE MADE) return to the earth as it was: and THE SPIRIT shall RETURN unto GOD who GAVE IT".
YOU LIKE ANYONE ELSE IS FREE TO WREST & MISINTERPRET THE SCRIPTURES AS YOU WANT, REGRETFULLY TO YOUR OWN CONDEMNATION.
THE BIBLE SOLEMNLY TESTIFIES OF A PRE EXISTENCE!
GOD BLESS! |
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