By: realityzgreat
4/12/2008
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mike_
you know that when you (impersonal) delve deep into any subject you can find ideas, statements, supposed facts to support either side of an argument, the further back you go the more cloudy the reality becomes |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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reality can you verify anything you said in your last pot is true ... no ,its all opinionated conjecture , you know nohting of the things you just said ..you said "a false beleif . how can it be false when we "DO " beleive , thats a real beleif not a false one
-thier mind has been conditioned ... based on ? lol conjecture again .
iv seen some very intellectual and educated debates on this thread latly .. you give only biased anti christ opinion . you are anti .. plain and true . |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| answer some of my questions reality.... |
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By: realityzgreat
4/12/2008
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mike_
you recently mentioned, indeed were amused by a poster asking about believers having contact with their god on a public bus, yes |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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turn and run by returning to questions you pose in order to get rsponses that you have predetermined replies for ..
nope its our turn , imagine for a moment , i am a 17 yr old teen , my dad beats me when hes drunk , my girlfriend dumped me , i dont know where my mum is ,im a school drop out and i am going to end it all tonight ... , if anyone has a reason to need hope .. I do ,, what say you reality ?
Be responsible for the things you claim to believe. what reason do you give me ..to live ? |
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By: realityzgreat
4/12/2008
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| exactly toks, however mike_ has his opinion which he forces upon us in the manner which he despises and denigrates the non believers for doing |
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By: fleeting.persia
4/12/2008
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mike:
Being that kind of teen, that has pretty much been in that kind of situation, I'd quite like to respond.
You freaking deal with it. That's what you do. You don't turn to fantastical deities. People who are weak might turn to God as to not end it. Regular, rational people will see that this is a sh1tty situation, but you are SEVENTEEN. You won't be this person for the rest of your life. Tomorrow could be the best day ever, you just have to be alive to see it.
I guess people who turn to God won't think like that. |
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By: tokoroajaq
4/12/2008
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realityz I wouldn't take too much notice of MIke. I've shared many of his posts with my "true" christian friends and they are not at all impressed with his attitude.
He's more interested in fighting then his Lord. Gods his disquise for hiding his true fears in life. |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| thanks fleeting , now i am a weak 17 yr old and i hate myself fully |
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By: tokoroajaq
4/12/2008
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| The problem with turning to God (as per the seventeen description) is that life continues to happen and suddenly they are faced with the shyte all over again and guess what _ God did nothing!!! False hopes is very dangerous for a suicidal teenager. What they need is reality that life is not always easy and they have to work to improve their situation. God won't do it for them. |
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By: realityzgreat
4/12/2008
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mike_
the answer to that is in the mind, postive thoughts versus negative thoughts, everybody has them, it's how you react to them that results in an outcome, external inputs affect the internal processing that determines the final outcome |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| reality has told me theres nothing after i die ,so whats the point .im weak i have nothing whats the point .im ending it tonight ,what does it matter if i live tomorrow what does it matter if i get anywhere ,then i die any way so whats the point |
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By: fleeting.persia
4/12/2008
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Thanks for completely missing the point.
I mean, you used an emotionally vulnerable kid as an example of someone who will turn to God, which is pretty telling in itself. I'm saying that any kid with a decent head on their shoulders will not miraculously decide to believe in God when some tough times approach in a knee-jerk attempt to fix everything. They'll work things out.
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By: tokoroajaq
4/12/2008
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| Mike why do you need something after death to make this life ok??? That seems to be the pattern in thinking of Christians. They need something to make sense of life. Why not make the most of what we have here and now until death do us part. |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| whats the point of acheiving any outcome at all . you said we go to nothing .. nothing is beter then sorrow ,, if we go to nothing we must have come from nothing so we are nothing , so im ending nothing .. no loss im nothing any way |
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By: fleeting.persia
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Okay. If you'll put in your thought process, I'll put in mine.
No, there is nothing after we die. We're here to live. Not to focus on our death. I don't know what will happen in the future of my life. Things could get awesome real quick. |
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By: realityzgreat
4/12/2008
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| sorry mike_ that probably went straight over your head, basically we all need to take responsibility for our actions |
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By: sisselkeaton
4/12/2008
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| Mike, 17 year old's are known to be 'drama-queens' or 'kings'...things get to them easily and they claim they want to end their lifes....it happens all the time! It does not mean that they have to be rescued by a god. They just need to grow up in their own time and battle the battle so they grow up being strong for their own kids they may one day have. If they turn to god for 'protection', they will learn nothing, they will stay weak and not be able to stand up for their own when the day comes. Trust me, for I know! |
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By: realityzgreat
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mike_
can you receive communication from your god when you are sitting in a public bus ? |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| why take responsability ..you do the action of telling me whewe die there is nothing .so all i may achieve in life will result in nothing at all , so why should i bother with tomorrow .. if i end it al tonight im just taking a short cut to the same nothingness so i wont know about it anymore any way , i wil be nothing . you are responsible for that ,.. you are the ones telling me theres nothing |
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By: sisselkeaton
4/12/2008
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| Yes Mike, thats right. .you came from nothing (before your mum and dad created you.....you were not there...)nothing. When you die, you will (like before you came) be nothing, or not be anymore...hopeful you will have done something for someone while you were here, which is called a legacy...but that's it, that's the purpose of your life. The purpose of your life is not all about you you and you when you die, for you only! |
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By: fleeting.persia
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| That's true. But why would you want to advance the nothingness when you can have a lot of something by not dying? Even if it ends in nothing, you've got something now. |
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By: mike_f596
4/12/2008
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| wonderful sissle , now im weak , and just drama queen that hates myself ,why should i not die now , why postpone my nothingness |
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By: tokoroajaq
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| Your choice Mike. End it if you think that life offers nothing unless there is something after life. Seems a sad concept to me. Its here and now that matters and we can make ours and others lives better by what we do now. Death has nothing to do with it. Its pretty sad if people need a death threat like hell to keep them behaving in this life. Says alot about their character doesn't it?? |
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