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By: cidermad
16/12/2008
2:03 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
congrats to 6500

By: zaxx1000
16/12/2008
5:10 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
mike....why is religion...Christianity.. .why is it so bloody boring? We hear the same stuff over and over again as if it is all you people ever think about. Do you do anything else? Do you read? Do you have a hobby? Anything?

By: tokoroajaq
16/12/2008
5:13 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
zaxx - while I don't promote chrisianity I would have to say that some of my best friends who are christian are anything but boring. They have loads of hobbies and real fun lives. (Behind it is their faith) but it doesn't seem to dominate their every thought.

By: zaxx1000
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
People have been talking about the 'end times' for centuries---it never happens because of the nature of the world; it will not 'come to an end' just because some half crazy arab or jew says it will...get real!

By: mike_f596
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
everything has an end , you included , its very real . should we not believe that which is real ,just because you say it is not ?
God loves you and has made a way for you to have life . this is the expanse of his love that he loves us even while we deny that he is .but he has said he shall not always strive with man , thus he has numbered the days of a man to four score and ten and stated if they be longer they shall be days of sorrow .

By: realityzgreat
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
mike_
with regard to the afterlife I think this well proven saying is totally appropriate, if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is

By: mike_f596
16/12/2008
8:35 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
lol rerality , that would depend upon "where " you spend that existence :)

By: realityzgreat
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
mike_
well most of us spend that existence in the real world, not in fantasy land

By: desertrose144
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Hi realityzgreat.

By: realityzgreat
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
hello desert

By: maoriboi_t64
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
the devil believes in jesus:o)

By: mike_f596
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
reality - what would you define as a fantasy land , something of the mind perhaps ? something you cannot see or taste or touch or hear or smell ?

like- thoughts , love , joy , envy ,peace,... do these thkngs exists or are they also fantasy ?

if you only define reality as that which can be boxed into the five senses then your reality is little more the a functioning mechanical device .

i am glad "life" far exceeds the meager limits of the five physical senses and you cannot, with honesty, say that it is not so ,for to do so, would be to say that love does not exist .

By: mike_f596
16/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
maoriboi_.. you quote the bible , wonder if your realized it .

-"the devils believe and tremble"-

By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
17/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
zaxx1000

Being a Christian is far from boring, you may hear the same stuff over and over but so what??
The Gospel message does not change, and neither are any of our friends boring and yes we do have a hobby so many of them in fact.
Have a nice day its raining here.

By: badpumpkin@ymail.com
17/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Good on you clem. I bet you are the life of the party...

By: mike_f596
17/12/2008
10:00 am

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By: badpumpkin@ymail.com
17/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
"Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed"


You could be right there mike. I am a bit of an evil barstid, I spent a bit of time outside in the sun yesterday and got sunburned. Is it possible that this was God punishing me...

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
17/12/2008
10:54 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
An argument is only caused when the second person has a differing opinion to the first and then challenges the first person.

This escalates further to the point where logic is thrown in the dustbin and personal points of view become the way of discussion.

There is no room for your belief in logic. If you wish to oppose someones belief with another belief be prepared to go to the very end.

I for one believe in nothing. I have no belief or faith. All I want is plain facts which are apparently lacking in this or most threads on these message boards.

It seems as if the message boards purpose is to continue to divide humanity further by encouraging people to post conflicting beliefs.

Humanity now needs facts to bring it back together as currently it fragmented and at the mercy of the shadowy collaboration that are running(or ruining) the show.

Christian, Atheist, Darwinian, Muslim, Hindu, Sihk, Jew etc, etc YAWN, YAWN, YAWN....... Those that BELIEVE they KNOW the truth probably DON'T. They only THINK they do!!!

There is no superiority. When we learn to lose our ego's and learn not to rise to the bait, maybe, just maybe the problems will go away.

Then we may be able to get to the real truth which has evaded us by the deceptions used by the powers that be for millenia.

Kia ora, Bon Chance and Cheers. All the same.

By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
17/12/2008
2:54 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
badpumpkin..

I bet you are the life of the party...

Not quite but we do like a bit of fun
Not so good at the moment though hubby and I have a really bad bug stomach cramps and vomiting plus all the rest to go with it ha ha ha

By: tokoroajaq
17/12/2008
6:45 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
A question for the Christians:

If someone like myself has spent many years searching for the truth and would like to believe in Jesus but simply finds it all too difficult for various reasons, ... and then I die, with a desire to know Gods real, but still not knowing, then does that person end up in heaven or hell.

So simplified does a desire to know Christ without ever actually getting to the point of actual definate belief count as acceptance from your God?

Hope that makes sense I am having trouble getting it worded in a simple way.

By: desertrose144
17/12/2008
8:35 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Hi Tok

I can't give you a categorical answer on that one.
However I do believe that God intimately knows your every thought and intention. I am sad to think that anybody could have an intense desire to believe but just not quite get there.

So, as you are a genuine seeker, ask Him to come get you and then be patient, He does not always respond in the way that you might think.

If you sincerely seek the truth God will eventually find you.

By: tokoroajaq
17/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Cheers Desertrose.

By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
18/12/2008
3:36 am

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Re:I believe in jesus
When God created man and woman, He created uniqueness..
When He created creatures big and small, he created uniqueness..When he created every plant life, big and small,He created uniqueness... when he created every fish in the water, He created uniqueness and when he created the whole universe, He created uniqueness...
He is the SOURCE or the FOUNDATION of everything..GOD SPOKE AND IT WAS DONE

Now unbelievers, scientists, theorists, and whatever .. ists.. and the like may try to disprove the written word of God using their HUMAN forms of logic and intelligence, but unless humans (ON THIS THREAD) can come up with provable information that is of their own findings then it can be only hearsay based on what another Human has researched..

GOD IS SPIRIT..(unseen,intangibl e,invisible... >>> in other words...NOT HUMAN

By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
18/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
Now if someone believes in nothing, have no belief system or faith but requires others to give plain facts then I would consider and arguement to be one-sided...WHY???...

Because the individual who does not believe in anything has already stated his position of not believing in anything..therefore an argument does not exist because there is nothing to argue about when there is nothing to argue against..
In other words ..the opposition may have some strong views but the one who presents himself as not believing in nothing will come with nothing except to question, to ridicule, to mock,to disagree ..give biased opinions based on nothing because he thinks he can(cause he does not believe in anything but himself...

Come back to the real world easypeasy..

By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
18/12/2008
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Re:I believe in jesus
easypeasy
Your quote.."There is no superiority, When we learn to lose our ego's and learn not to rise to the bait, maybe, just maybe the problems will go away"..

Perhaps you can enlighten me in your belief in nothingness as to how this will happen as it appears you in fact have an opinion despite believing in nothing...
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