By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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I've just given you proof, you dummy and the best response you can come back with is that you, "GUESS" that there was someone called jesus. You really don't get the point do you that the whole thing has been a scam which has been used to divert people from looking for the real truth behind their existence. And that's the point, you don't care either way. So there for you apathy works very well also for maintaining the status quo.
A really big well done to you.... Not really, GROW UP.... READ the website links I provided and get a clue. |
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By: m.aislabie@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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To believe in Jesus is to Believe in what he taught, Not believe that he existed.
Jesus was not walking around saying "believe in me, i exist." He was walking around saying believe in what I say.
What he said was I am God. Duh. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| well that's a bit more on to it, tokoroa, good on you. i agree, i think its entirely possible that one day someone will find some convincing evidence that jesus was a real living person. the only people convinced of it now, are those people who are convinced that many weird and wonderful unprovable things are real because they have faith in it, and it says so in the bible. which is kinda like being nuts |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| tokoroajaq, You keep mentioning this proof that history can show us that jesus existed but never give any. I, on the other hand provide many useful links but you still keep talking cr4p. Put up or shut up... |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| pigpot blow it out your ar.se |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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Stop talking cr4p and provide evidence. Mine's there for you to see. Where's yours? |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| That's the best you've got.... jesus freaks and no-hopers... Laughing uncontrolably............ .. |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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Damn we were so close to killing the thread... and then people got serious again... bugger...
Ah leave them to it... It all comes down to "beliefs"... nothing associated with Jesus is factual, even the argument that he didn't exist requires you to "believe" that... |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| Pigpot - i will show you mine if you show me yours! |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| Been shown by me... What about you? |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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and it appears pigpot has not read pigpot's own links. those links say there is no real evidence of jesus' existence, which is entirely true.
it does not say 'jesus didn't exist and here is the proof', and i'm thinking, 'really? is pigpot that comfortable with looking like a fool on this board?' and the answer is clearly yes.
of course jesus might have existed. there's no proof he didn't. read your own info already |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| Now we are Jesus freaks! Wicked never been one of those before. Dammit better get me a bible and do some thumping! |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| i don't think pigpot knows what atheist means... |
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By: charlie_stubbs_resurrection
15/08/2008
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz No evidence for his existence means there is NO PROOF. Carry on with silly words trying to bolster your feeble faith in something that is no more real than Spiderman..... |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| charlie read back over the thread and check out our additions to your song introductions. |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| Grow up Charlie and read the links provided. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| i don't beleive in god, pigpot. you have misunderstood what's going on here. hang your head in shame |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| pigpot do you understand the difference in believing in Jesus as the person and not Jesus as the God?? You sound angry and confused. I don't think there is one Christian on this thread so why tell us we are??? |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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Have you read "Jesus the Man: New Interpretation from the Dead Sea Scrolls" by Barbara Thiering
Includes some census and roman records which show the likelihood that Jesus existed... Nothing 100% to show he did... but there is certainly no 100% evidence to show he doesn't...
at the end of the day, it is all belief based upon speculation... ON BOTH SIDES of this debate... |
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By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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Christians have held the main character of the New Testament, Jesus "the Christ," in high esteem for centuries. Even many who do not believe in the divinity of Jesus think that he gave an admirable example of moral living. Although we have no evidence that the Biblical Jesus ever existed, we can still examine the words of the Bible to extract the wisdom and morality of this character, regardless of whether he actually lived or not.
Does the Biblical Jesus merit the honor bestowed upon him? Unfortunately, preachers, ministers, and clergymen have given us biased, one-sided stories, emphasizing and inflating what they see as positive while subverting or ignoring the negative. Biblical scholarship of the last hundred years has not reached the common man. Instead, we see political ministers and televangelists making absurd biblical claims without anyone calling them accountable. Although over 90 percent of households in America own a Bible, it usually goes unread, or at best sanitized or bowdlerized to what people want it to say.
Unbeknownst to many Christians, many times the Gospels of the New Testament portray Jesus as vengeful, demeaning, intolerant, and hypocritical. In one section Jesus calls for love of enemies, yet in another to slay them. He tells others to not use hurtful names, yet he called others fools, dogs, and vipers. He calls for honoring parents in one verse, yet demands hate toward family members in another. Some of Jesus' words against his adversaries depict what some would call anti-Semitism. Indeed, the verses of the New Testament have fueled the flames of anti-Jewishness for centuries |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| My guess is pigpots been on the pot and done his braincells in. |
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By: pigpot2007
15/08/2008
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| Oh!!! I no atheist either.. I believe in nothing... All I ask for is proof. Atheism in itself is a "belief" system. Please don't become to verbose as you will further make yourself look foolish.. I shall be back later.. Good evening to one and all. |
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By: tokoroajaq
15/08/2008
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| This little piggy went we we we we we all the way to bed. Nite pigpot |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| omg pigpot, you're amazing |
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