By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 1:30 pm Yahoo! Profile: shmeads@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| hahahaha realityz. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 1:31 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hi Liddee - I'm doing much better thank you. |
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By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 1:32 pm Yahoo! Profile: shmeads@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| new name aye ? ummmm I need to go sus it out then lol |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 1:34 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| pg six 10.17 (I think) then follow discussion for awhile and see if you agree. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 1:38 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| See ya shmeads, don't stay in there too long! Like you say these threads can get to you. Not that they need to but a few insecure ones use them as a source for bullying. Spoils the fun for all of us. Oh well, gotta feel sorry for them really. |
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By: november93rain 1/03/2009 1:39 pm Yahoo! Profile: november93rain Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hey Toks how are you today? |
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By: shmeads@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 1:46 pm Yahoo! Profile: shmeads@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Toks ...I've had a look.Yes I would say its one and the same WHKB! hahahaha At least he cannot write in maori in his postings ,and he he hasn't a sign off signature. hahahahahaha.
Well Im off for a walk,keep well.Take care and don't let these MBs get to you . |
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By: xav10000 1/03/2009 2:00 pm Yahoo! Profile: xav10000 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| loto....you think 6 lines is verbose??? You are joking. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 2:21 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hi Nov, sorry was away from comp. YEP! lol I do have a life! Yes, I am much better today thank you. |
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By: droich 1/03/2009 2:26 pm Yahoo! Profile: droich Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| praise Jebus |
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By: mike_f596 1/03/2009 4:39 pm Yahoo! Profile: mike_f596 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| sorry xav .. going on your outburst of strung together insults ... were you lacking a week bit of attention ? |
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By: mike_f596 1/03/2009 4:39 pm Yahoo! Profile: mike_f596 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| sorry xav .. going on your outburst of strung together insults ... were you lacking a wee bit of attention ? |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 4:51 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Evening Mike |
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By: deecee4@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 5:05 pm Yahoo! Profile: deecee4@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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hi bc...
1> my position is that if one accepts the historicity of Herod the Great, Hadrian and Alexander the Great, one must, if consistent, accept the historicity of Jesus of Nazareth. You raise the point of the contemporary nature of the writers; this is precisely my point. There are NO contemporary accounts for these other three gentlemen either! None. So you are either compelled to accept the historical Jesus, or reject the historicity of the others.
2> Matthew and John were eye witnesses to the events. Both Gospels are dated as having been written prior to 100AD, Matthew as early as 70AD. In historical terms this is the equivalent of an eyewitness writing today about events as old as WW2 or as contemporary as the Vietnam War.
3> I invoked the influence of Jesus with regards to his EXISTENCE, not his acts. We have a choice. We either accept that the profound influence of this man on mankind, even 2,000 years after his death, is direct and objective evidence of his existence, or we choose to believe it is not. Frankly the latter is a leap of faith so large that it exceeds anything else witnessed here. |
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By: deecee4@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 5:37 pm Yahoo! Profile: deecee4@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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hi xav...
1> If you posit a creator of the universe, then it logically follows that you are positing the supernatural. Because nothing can explain it's own existence, the creator of the universe must be outside of the natural universe, and therefore be 'super' natural. And numbers don't matter. If you you allow the supernatural even once, the door is open.
2> The example of gravity was not to speak of the supernatural, but of the unseen. My answered mirrored your point.
3> The ample empirical proof you have is for the multitude of planets. You have no proof of life on any other planet. You can expect away, but this is no more or less than faith or belief.
4> The principle of mediocrity is, much like punctuated evolution, philosophical not scientific. It is yet another attempt to try to make evolutionary theory 'fit' with new observations, in this case about the odds against the spontaneous eruption of life. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 5:55 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Well its quiet in here again tonight. Evening church maybe?
Mike I keep missing you, or you are hiding from me?
Anyway I will watch out for your Bible teachings that you post on here.
Some psalms would be nice. |
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By: cisco_sparks 1/03/2009 6:16 pm Yahoo! Profile: cisco_sparks Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Everything you said, happened because of original sin. Man was given the opportunity to live a perfect life, but chose not to, by defying God.
The bible contradicts itself because it was written by men, who are, due to original sin, flawed. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 6:19 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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but wasn't it inspired by God and so therefore should be faultless?
Sorry if its a dumb question but I don't know all that much of the theory I just know how I feel when I am trusting God vs how I feel when I go my own way. |
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By: kiwighost69 1/03/2009 6:25 pm Yahoo! Profile: kiwighost69 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| hi tok. : ) |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 6:27 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hey RedGhost! Our friends back - did you notice?
No more sign off signature though! lol
He goes by the name King Guards! |
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By: kiwighost69 1/03/2009 6:37 pm Yahoo! Profile: kiwighost69 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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LOL, so i was right in suspecting that little monkey was him! Kings guard, what a joke. I'm on the "maori are separatist" thread giving 'em shiite. lol
Now that I know it's him, i'm really gonna give him bollocks.
redghost101 : ) |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 6:39 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Im just lying low. Too much excitement sent me over the top this week. But I'm ok again now. Amazing what a long sleep and the right meds will do! lol
They don't call me crazy for nothing. |
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By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz 1/03/2009 6:41 pm Yahoo! Profile: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi tok...
I am still here yes where is Mike I am missing him too..
Yes the Psalms are lovely I love the 23rd Psalm
Surely goodness and mercy shall
Follow me all the day's of my life
And I shall dwell in the house
of the Lord forever. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 6:43 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Hi Clem, Mikes been and gone a few times and I have said hello. I think hes upset with me. Well to be honest I am upset with me also. But you know its real hard when you fall to get up again and I just feel like kicking A$se right now and I am finding it really hard to be serious. |
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By: tokoroajaq 1/03/2009 6:46 pm Yahoo! Profile: tokoroajaq Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I'm supposed to be in respite right now but I didn't go. I am still home. I feel ok but the thing is they made a deal with me that if I left hospital I would come home and sort out my pets and go to respite for a few days. But I never went! So tomorrow I will likely get in trouble.
But I honestly feel ok. And I don't want to be locked away like a dammed criminal with stupid people watching over me and making sure I take my meds and don't drink alcohol and all that.
I want them to leave me alone! |
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