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By: kaituna2003
1/10/2008
4:54 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
rhotzeen
What church do you belong too.

By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
4:55 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
i like how sometimes christians write with an old english lilt.

thou shall this and that. god willyst smite me thus.

etc

By: kaituna2003
1/10/2008
4:59 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
rhotzeen

Nah dont tell me , Kaituna getting hungry again...RRrrrrr

By: koaiu
1/10/2008
5:02 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
"i'm pretty confident that he was a real man, and wouldn't be surprised if one day we could identify his bloodline in living people (not in a da vinci code way). i'll always be an atheist though."
Im really dumb-founded by this statement.
Jesus is not a real man, the real man abandoned his real name and became Jesus... do u even read the bible?

By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:07 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
dumbfounded? i thought it was pretty clear.

when you say "Jesus is not a real man, the real man abandoned his real name and became Jesus", what source are you quoting? the bible? not everyone translates the bible as literal fact, surely you'd only be dumbfounded by the statement above if you DO read the bible as literal fact.

there have been many historical extrapolations into the probability that there was an actual dude who the jesus stories are based on, versus the idea they were all made up by some group of people. i like to think there was a real guy, but only because i like stories...

By: paul.fraser@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:08 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
people who read the bible must have nothing better to do with their time ... religion - the biggest con of all time

By: kaituna2003
1/10/2008
5:17 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
BRAIN WASHING.....Bible basher's i hate them , see the word HATE....lol

If you cant live life without being happy , than yeah go look for a church , But dont bleet on to ME.

I know who i love , and where Im going when i die..6Ft down
with the rest.

By: rhotzeen
1/10/2008
5:19 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Kaituna2003

Hey man, it's alright to get hungry especially if you will be filled beyond your expectation!

Christians are normal people.

By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:22 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
*wonders what paul fraser does with his time*

By: rhotzeen
1/10/2008
5:25 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
To: Paul.fraser

I read my Bible in front of PC at work. I hope you read your bible as well. Don't try religion, become a christian.

By: kaituna2003
1/10/2008
5:26 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
hey rhotzeen normal , whats that suppose to mean "NORMAL"
'"Christians are normal people"

I never said nothing about "Christians" so dont meaningly put words into peoples mouths.

If you cant read my lines...I hate Bible Bashers Period.

Yuuuumyuuuum yuuummm .Kaituna hungry right now.....mmmmmmmm

By: paul.fraser@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:29 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
religion is a dangerous pastime .. look at the cause of most past and present wars ... religious nutters killing each other plus innocent people

By: vince_the_c
1/10/2008
5:30 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
"I read my Bible in front of PC at work. "


Rhotzeen:

Well, I hope you're self-employed then. Because if you're not, and are reading the Bible while you're being paid to do something else... that's called "stealing". ;)

By: paul.fraser@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:33 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
and surprise surprise another conman evangalist in the USA arrested for sexual abuse of children this week

By: rhotzeen
1/10/2008
5:36 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
To Vince,

It's not time stealing if you do it during your break time right?

By: vince_the_c
1/10/2008
5:42 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
"It's not time stealing if you do it during your break time right?"

Ok, I stand corrected! :D

By: alexrice@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:45 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Because nicolte, as you say we have free will and we, or most at least, choose not to be perfect.

By: rhotzeen
1/10/2008
5:48 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
To Kaituna2003,

Bible bashers are dangerous...it can break one's neck and one's hand.

I'm just telling you that christians are normal people. They are in your neighbourhood. They invite you to dinner or parties; work with you; laugh and cry with you. He/She may be your mom or dad, your brother, or simply your friend, WHO CARES for you.

By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
5:50 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
If you were normal people, you wouldnt need to live your life going by a story book and making decisions in your life thinking what an invisable man might think if you made the wrong choice.

By: vince_the_c
1/10/2008
5:56 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
RIXACTF:

"Its amazing that people will believe in a single cell forming millions of years ago (in spite of the improbability of such a thing ever happening) and then put their belief in the idea that it (the single cell) can miraculously form into an organism"

For starters, a cell IS an organism.

Secondly, all those people that talk about the universe being some sort of proof that God exists seem to somehow ignore the way that evolution can be seen all around us, too.

For every hackneyed example ("the wonder of a flower's petals", "the poetry of a sunset" rhubarb, rhubarb) you can see Evolution in the simple case of a guy that starts a shop, does well at it and opens up a second shop.

His brother, who also went into business at the same time, wasn't as good a businesman. So he never got past owning his first shop.

Eventually, the first guy owns a huge chain of stores and maybe sells his own products. He's still in retail, but he's branched out into (say) manufacturing and transport as well.

Evolution. Right before your very eyes and not a Hallmark moment in there.

By: charlie_studd
1/10/2008
6:21 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
I believe in casper

By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
6:27 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Wow I have had no internet for 9 days and this thread is still has strong as ever...sure proof that Jesus Christ is alive and well.
All over the world people are still being saved..the Gospel message is our only hope.

By: dagogga
1/10/2008
6:47 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Amen to that,clematisgrove!

By: pigpot2007
1/10/2008
6:56 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
Clematis is at the bottle again!!!

By: paul.fraser@xtra.co.nz
1/10/2008
7:03 pm

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Re:I believe in jesus
lol what gospel message would that be . . i have no mind of my owm, or ... how many poor people can i take some money off, or ... let's mention a fantasy being and convince ourselves that whatever wrong we do it's ok
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