By: futtz@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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I very agree Gary...
Thanks and Glory to our beloved God... |
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By: futtz@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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Laurence...
you post: "Futtz, all of us have free will, will most of us,"
Thats your opinion well ok with me but I dis-agree because taking your life is not for you to take..
you post: "and the teachings on intolerance, discrimination, hatred,and how to be a bigot. The teaching of three deities that are one, the believance in ghosts, and the teaching of the superiority of male over female!"
...You tell me who hates who the most non believers or Believers of Christ, We Believers follow Christ and in Christ is LOVE not hate, and yes Man was created before Woman.
you post: "And then to compare , or think of ones self as a sheep, and then an eagle, all I can is that I am thank I have evolved from the ape family! At least they have a larger brain that either a sheep or an eagle and do display intelligent thought."
... Again you miss read and misunderstand the Parable of Jesus, its not about the brain...
Thats why I say you must have the Holy Spirit within you when you read the Holy Scriptures....
You also retaliate in your posts with mockery and in some way its hate that to me is like the Truth Hurts.... |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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futtz, to qoute you "yes Man was created before Woman".
hahahahaha, so how come you are here? And to teach the superiority of male over female????
and then you say "its not about the brain"
ah, so you are indicating you do not have a brain? As I will make that assumption, or at least you incate that the brain does not require its functions. So you are of no life????????
So futtz, truth hurts does it, but if you do not use your brain, how????? And you admitt that truth hurts, so I will asume some of what I do say is truth. |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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laurence all you have said in regard to me is your opinoin based on the fact that you do not beleive in Jesus .
you cant verify any of it as it isn't correct any way .
of course you dont like what we preach . it disagrees with you . i have already stated i accept that you disagree .
should you not practice what you preach and show the same tolerence ?
i do not berate you for disagreeing, i do not insult you for disagreeing , i do not make fun of you for disagreeing i do not call you names for disagreeing ,i do not make insinuating insult in regard to you for disagreeing.
i do question some of your claims , for example - you state that the message of Jesus which we share is hatred . could you please explain how you came to this conclusion seeing that all we have ever done in response to your posts is either disagree or bless you ? |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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you also state that it is not a tru message but you still have no way of probving that .it is ONLY your opinion and i accept that it is only your opinion .
then you claim we shove it down your throat ??? umm this thread is titled "i beleive in Jesus " there for that is the orientation of the topic ..
could you please tell me who came into your house , put a gun to your head anf forced you to click on this thread ?
oh,,,, no one? , you did so by your own choice .. hmmmm |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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and after it all i it is not my Job to convince you . it is not my job to prove you wrong
if what you beleive is what you beleive then that is the choice you have made .
according to the bible which i beleive . your choice is the wrong one . you disagree , i accept that you disagree .
but my beleif and faith requires me to display love and love will not tell a lie and lead astray , so i speak the truth and care not for the mockery it brings from those who hate the message of hope and love that we share .
so again regardless of what you or any one says in opposition , your words hold disbelief and hate but no authority and so
this truth remains unmoved .
there is hope and life to be had , there is a way for any who DO beleive to be reconciled to God , for god has spoken with his word to tell us and his word became flesh and dwelt among us and his name is JESUS.
who ever beleive in him shall not perish but have everlasting life .
it is simply .. Good news !will continue to do what is the basis of my motivation for posting here ..
which is to share a message of hope and love , which i have experienced and found to be true in ever aspect . |
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By: futtz@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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Again and again laurence you read my post and still you dont get it... Let me repeat myself again....
... Again you miss read and misunderstand the Parable of Jesus, its not about the brain...
Thats why I say you must have the Holy Spirit within you when you read the Holy Scriptures....!!!!!!!!!!! !!! |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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futtz .. wisdom comes from god , wisdom is the application of knowledge . the ability to know comes from God the ability to comprehend knowledge comes from God . the ability to put what you comprehend into action that most is beneficial to all mankind the universe and God ..is wisdom .
(im borrowing heavily from Charles finny there )
when God is rejected he removes this ability _ he does not do so easily as he is merciful . it is important to discern when this has taken place .. it is called being given over to a reprobate mind .
why did i say all that .. just for your consideration.
God bless you in our lord Jesus ever increasingly and give you abundantly more wisdom then ever i shall know in this life . |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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Good news good news Christ died for me
good news good news IF i beleive , good new good news
im svaed eternally .. thats wonderfully extra good news .
great little song that * smiles * |
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By: futtz@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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Cheers Mike, yes indeed I agree..
God Bless You and Peace be with you:) |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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dddddddddddddddaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
that indicates what I think of your intelligence! Iyt is lacking, and you are all a little like sheep to the slaughter!
Enjoy life with your satan and your book of fiction, the false book! |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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| for some one who doesnt beleive in the bible , did you realize you are quoting it? thanks by the way .. it is a blessing to know we are fulfilling our mandate . * smiles * God bless you Lauraine . |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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as with many of you one can not have an intelligent debate as you are so biggotted and one eyed on the world.
It is little wonder this world does have so many problems, due to religious intolerance of fellow man |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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| and in many of you, it is not religion that you follow, but evil! |
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By: mike_f596
21/04/2009
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and yet this truth remains unmoved .
there is hope and life to be had , there is a way for any who DO beleive to be reconciled to God , for god has spoken with his word to tell us and his word became flesh and dwelt among us and his name is JESUS.
who ever beleive in him shall not perish but have everlasting life .
it is simply .. GOOD NEWS !will continue to do what is the basis of my motivation for posting here ..
which is to share a message of hope and love , which i have experienced and found to be true in ever aspect . |
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By: tokoroajaq
21/04/2009
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Hi Mike, you are doing a great job.
God bless you |
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By: tokoroajaq
21/04/2009
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Laurance -- Regarding this remark you made: "and in many of you, it is not religion that you follow, but evil!"
I am interested to know your thoughts on evil and how evil came to be etc...
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By: magewizard@rocketmail.com
21/04/2009
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i am interested to know how actually understand a single word laurence writes...
Is he only 5 or something..my six year old has better english skills...'
I am impressed mike...i wouldnt even bother with him.. |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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Tok, first read your book and exactly what has it taught you. Then maybe when you question what it says you understand!
When you can question mythology, and a scam as it is, then maybe you are ready to once again be a human and not a sheep.
Your book, the bible as you call it, teaches much that is bad for this world, and whether you believe me or not, it IS the beginnings of many of the problems that beset this world. It is comparable to "Mein Kumpf" and most of us who know do know what that was! |
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By: tokoroajaq
21/04/2009
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Laurence - thankyou but you never answered my question. WHich is not about what I think, I am asking you how you feel evil entered the world etc... Eg did it come from man, another force, alien life etc... Its your thoughts I am interested in. I already know what I believe.
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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tok, it is simple, the evil comes from your book, and the thoughts that it imparts in some. No where else can one find such a collection of writing that say so much on such a subject.
No where else is there any comparable writings that seek to implant such control over people, and these ideas are not for the collective good. |
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By: tokoroajaq
21/04/2009
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Laurence - lets for the moment throw this book away. Now I go out and murder someone you love. Is that still evil? Or is it only evil if the Bible says so?
And if it is evil, then how did this evil enter the world? |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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LOL>>!!
That was a beaudy!!!>>> Tokorojaq
I can't wait for .."the Intellegence species".. reply
Ha! ha! ha!..... |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
21/04/2009
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LOL>>!!
That was a beaudy!!!>>> Tokorojaq
I can't wait for .."the Intellegence species".. reply
Ha! ha! ha!..... |
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By: laurence_brian
21/04/2009
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you will never get will you. In society as it is, we have social laws, which are legal, and did NOT come from your religion or your book. And you can not claim they did, as even in societies that did NOT have your book there where and are social laws. as in your example of murder, this is not necessarily evil as such, it IS antisocial however, and it is the social laws which deal with this ingression, not your book!
Without your book, life will continue, and in many facets, if your book never existed, likely better than it is today, and the world would likely be a better place! Your book breeds disharmony, intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and these we as humans can all do without! this is why a growing number of people move away from your religions, and either find one that is liberal, or do without one in their life altogether. The way some of yous preach will likely drive more elsewhere than you would ever convert. |
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