By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| oh and that's the second time he's posted those links, i read them last time. my reading speed is that of a normal human ;) |
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By: styliista
15/08/2008
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| nice work Abu |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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Well it cracks me up that someone will say "you can't prove Jesus exists, therefore he can't have"... That argument lacks logic, and would get thrown out it a court of law... and they would piss themselves laughing in a bible study...
as I said he would need to show 100% that he didn't exist, because even 1% is enough for those who believe... and no evidence that exists today can show that...
Christainity is here to stay... which doesn't actually please me in many ways... hahaha |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| oh god please don't say here to stay. it spoils my utopian vision of the future ;( |
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By: styliista
15/08/2008
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| yeah and is grt to have discussion and banter, without pulling people apart |
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By: styliista
15/08/2008
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| hey what is your utopia looking like AV? give us a peek.... |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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| as far as moral parasitism is concerned, yikes that we might have gleaned our morality from the bible, or that christians are more moral than atheists. if my morals are judeo christian, then why do bible stories make me shudder with their injustice? and why do christian cultures threaten violence so regularly? so much of christianity seems morally corrupt to me. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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my utopia is secular.
kinda like china... j/k |
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By: styliista
15/08/2008
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| peace joy love lots of friends and good sex |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
15/08/2008
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styliista
Only talk issues buddy... personal attacks are for those that have run out of convincing arguments... Used to have a debating coach who said "the first to get angry loses"...
Anger closes the ears of you and the person you are talking to... and makes the discussion pointless... and I'm not into pointless discussion... |
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By: styliista
15/08/2008
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| hey sorry if I offended anyone out there, actually wasn't attacking. |
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By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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Adam
Yes its very sad really a lot goes under the name of Christianity..therefore putting people off.
I am a Christian and I certainly believe in Jesus.
I believe the Bibla as is... nothing added and nothing taken away. |
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By: kand@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| "BRIAN" the story of a biblical a s s. TE PAPA(AUG 16-20) |
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By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| For christains to preach this and that and go on about family values, jesus never married, he was a virgin and so therefore fathered no children. So what would he know about family values ? |
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By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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Thou shalt not kill?
Many Christians believe that Jesus represents God, or God sent to earth in human form, or as a component of the Trinity. If people believe this, how many of them realize that the Old Testament gives many examples of God ordering or personally murdering innocent men, women, and children, along with the destruction of cities, buildings, and other religions? The following gives just a few examples:
...the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt...
-Exodus 12:29
Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:
And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.
-God in Deuteronomy 12:2-3
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
-God in I Samuel 15:3
Therefore, if you believe that Jesus equals God in the flesh, then Christ must hold responsibility for the death, destruction, and intolerance practiced throughout the Old Testament.
However, some Christians do not believe in the Trinity or that Jesus equals God but rather that he lived as a flesh and blood man created and sent from God. Unfortunately, this does not dismiss Jesus from his admission towards killing. According to the New Testament, Jesus upholds all the laws of the Old Testament:
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
-Matthew: 5:17-18 |
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By: powley9
16/08/2008
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jesus loves me this i know
for the bible tells me so
come on sing up all you jesus freaks
little ones to him belong
they are weak but he is strong |
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By: gadfli
16/08/2008
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| my my my powley the sting is there but the words are close |
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By: barkdowntrees
16/08/2008
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| This thread smacks of ignorance. If you want to know about Jesus, seek him with your heart and you will find the answer to your questions. Go ahead and attack me because I wont log back on. Ive said my piece and all I pity those who don't know Him personally in this day and age. God Bless You all and I mean that sincerely. Over and out. |
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By: larc@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| i know jesus, son of the living god, know him well, he, jesus is still alive and well, living in the dimension where he was created , we call it heaven , for all purposes , it is a dimension that exists outside of the universe and we all know how big the universe is. jesus said, "my father jahweh (god- he actually has a name)can fold up the universe like a cloak and put it on the shelf with all the other cloaks" these are not superstitious beings made up for a book called the bible. they are real and they have been trying to bring humankind back to themselves for 5000 years communicating through the voices of their prophets and the written word, the bible is a cellphone to jah and his son and the holy spirit,it is there like cell phones, to be used, humans where given the choice to , live with god or go it on their own, they chose their own destiny, the price being death,Noah was the only man to beleive in jah, the rest back then gave jah the finger, so at the flood noah was saved. and yes all mankind stem from noah and his sons . war - man created war, men harm men, so jah uses war in mans way, the method they created.in ww2 by the way jah did intervene, its called the American Marine Corps, semper fidelis "always faithful" those men have sacrificed their lives by the tens of thousands to keep the world free. so we christians stay always faithful, no matter what. |
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By: ralph-delta@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| he IS a real man not was, he is the son of God and he will be coming back one day to claim his people |
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By: possumroo
16/08/2008
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| Good on him, and will that be anytime soon? |
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By: tokoroajaq
16/08/2008
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| Think I just a glimpse of walking in Tokoroa. Oh but why would he do that when he can hide away in that other dimension??? |
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By: clematisgrove@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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andrew.
We only think of God as we think.
He knows everything fron begining to end.
I know many people who have become Christians and what a difference... one Christian man I know was the town drunk for 40 years, he was saved and from that day he has never touched a drop.
And since then many have been lead to the Lord through this man he's a wonderful example of what a Christian should be...
God is very powerful and is working in people's lives to-day. |
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By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| What a croc of sh1t. I used to be hard into drugs. Have been clean for some time now. I did it for me and my family. Had nothing to do with god. My choice to give it away. I didnt ask for his help. Just liuke the town drunk. His choice to stop. Probably thought like me. Time to grow up and stop drinking. No happyness in been a bum all ya life. And how did you know god helped this drunk? See the whole thing did we ? Get a grip on reality. The sooner you find out there is no god to save you, the better off you all will be. |
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By: andrew.whiteman@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| Oh by the way, did your god help my mum with her cancer and save her ? no he pharkn did not. |
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