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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
9:35 am

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Or we should replace our police force with ninjas game over problem solved.

By: vanessa.payne@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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Yes let the cops have Tasers god let them carry guns but that'll be the next step. While your at it make Tasers legal for everyone I wanna get ME a Taser for protecting me and my family

By: nznationalist
28/08/2008
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pleased to hear it, there's so many lefties whinging about the rights of the criminals people forget about the safety of the OFFICERS and UPHOLDING THE LAW.

By: sav.com@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
10:27 am

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I dont think they should carry taser's. NZ is not employing rocket scientists to preform the role as revenue collectors AKA (cash cows)and what is worse is that there are dishonest police out there as well. I was given a ticket for speeding the other day when we (my wife and I ) know we were not and had cruize control on doing 103 and he said i was doing 112.asked for the time the speed was measured he refused (wonder why?)and then he also refused to show me the calibration cert as well. I was also travelling behind the police car on a long straight road. makes sense to catch up to a police car speeding????? what faith do you have in the justice system now????who would you complain to? The POLICE??? or police with TASER GUNS no thanks i rather live in Bali at least they ask for money then and there then leave you alone.

By: apsmth1965
28/08/2008
10:49 am

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/background/tasers/

Quote from the above site

" Registre was the 17th person to die from a stun-gun-related death in Canada."

"Scott Nugent, a former Winnfield, LA police officer, will be charged with manslaughter for tasering 21-year-old Black man, Baron “Scooter” Pikes, to death.
Pikes, a 21-year-old sawmill worker, tried to run from Winnfield police, who wanted to arrest him on a warrant charging him with cocaine possession.
A coroner’s report found that Pikes was handcuffed and on the ground when first stunned with a Taser and might have been dead before the last two 50,000-volt shocks were delivered.
Nugent faces up to 45 years for the excessive force that unnecessarily took the life of a young man."

By: apsmth1965
28/08/2008
10:51 am

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More than 290 people have died since June 2001 after being struck by police Tasers, according to the human rights group Amnesty International.

http://www.bakelblog.com/nobodys_business/2008/01/ another-taser-d.html

By: nomaza66
28/08/2008
10:53 am

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Tasers bloody good idea, bring them in fulltime.
People should not be afraid of them unless they are thinking of breaking the law or do something to draw attention to themselves that is suspicious behaviour

By: forrest19@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
11:01 am

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BAD,BAD, BAD.

By: kilmaun@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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Could not agree with you more,It is about time our SO-CALLED jutice system had a big overhaul.

By: kgrout@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
11:10 am

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Dont know.U`ll get some taser happy cops who WILL end up killing someone & once the criminals out there know that the cops are armed with tasers they will be out there also but with GUNS.

By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
11:24 am

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you won't see anywhere as many deaths from these things as you will from hand guns....these things can be, or are fitted with a serial number that stays with the tags that cling to your colthing etc....they ID the fireer or the device that was used....if you have a weak heart....don't be a criminal....don't stand on the ledge of a ten storey building...refusing to give yourself up, or taking the piss out of a cop, or you could die from one of these....when the man says stand still, stop, sit down, hands up, hands behind your head....bloody do it...simple as that.......take rights completely away from prisoners....f.@.r.k em

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
11:28 am

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More than 290 people have died since June 2001 after being struck by police Tasers, according to the human rights group Amnesty International.

How many people have died as passengers in cars?

And how many police have died in the line of duty since june 2001?

How many wifes or husbands of police lost there love ones since june 2001?

How many of those 290 people were just going about their day to day business not breaking the law?

By: obrienke28
28/08/2008
11:28 am

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The scum already have guns
The point being made is that Taser will be a safer option for all. If someone is unwell at least they have a good chance of living,where if unwell and threatened and shot......well you are dead.

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
11:30 am

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If your not sure what to do check out this informative video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8

By: scott-walker@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
11:47 am

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I aggree with you in priciple but look at the poor cop that has to pull the trigger and cop all the flac for protecting his own life. Tasers wil fill the space between the assaultive offenders and the offenders who are out to cause death. long since over due.

By: paul.fraser@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
12:22 pm

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tasers ... GREAT

By: apsmth1965
28/08/2008
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cripplemronion

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How many people have died as passengers in cars?

And how many police have died in the line of duty since june 2001?

How many wifes or husbands of police lost there love ones since june 2001?

How many of those 290 people were just going about their day to day business not breaking the law?

1: Cars were not and as far as I am aware still not build as defence weapons for the police , what do cars have to do with tasers ?
2: No idea
3: That happens both ways , How many cops have bad kids
that get taken out
4: I know of one person who died as a result of tasering
that was not a criminal
"VANCOUVER ,Dazed and confused after more than 15 hours of travel, unable to communicate in English and scared because he couldn't find his mother, Polish immigrant Robert Dziekanski was jolted by a taser just 24 seconds after being confronted by police in Vancouver International Airport."
This man died as a result

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM .20071025.wtaser1026/BNStory/National/home

My point is to the original question of " Taser Guns Good or Bad? " is yes perhaps a good idea , but also bad , there is alot of unanswered questions about these defence devices and now alot of warnings being issued due to there growing contribution to deaths.
cripplemoron do some research , the idea is to stop crime , not kill people , these devices have been proven to attribute to the cause of many deaths

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
12:57 pm

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My point about cars is that police use cars to transport people and people die in cars, whats next sorry people die in cars your going to have to walk back to the station, sure people will die, good people die during life saving operations or waiting forever for those operations. I would rather see the person that the cops having to deal with die than the cop whos trying to keep the peace. Death happens needless death happens in all aspects of life, if colorful language and a feather duster would work I would rather that, but guns kill more people than Tazers and cops deserve to have and option between having to shoot to kill or be attacked.

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
1:00 pm

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You tell me what the answer is? You give me one sure fire way to take down a violent offender with zero chance of either party being hurt?

By: apsmth1965
28/08/2008
1:13 pm

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I dont have an answer for you , if I did I would not be going to work busting my @ss everyday.

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
1:23 pm

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People are to quick to say you cant do that but never spare any though to a solution, If hugs and feather duster would work then sweet, I don't think anyone in their right mind would dispute that the world is becoming a more hostile place but its not fair to let one team use what ever they want while tying the hand of the other team who are meant to be the good guys. I bet to that the people that are anti the tazers are the first people to point the finger at police when someone goes on a rampage and they don't take the guy down quick enough, we don't live in a perfect world and no solutions going to be perfect, deaths happen and its sad for the families and friends left behind but people do things to invite death everyday, saying I was tazered and it could have killed me while smoking a ciggy springs to mind as an example here.

By: mike_f596
28/08/2008
1:26 pm

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hey for close on a hundred years we have kept cattle in line by zapping them if they lean on the wire !

its a proven method ..i say YES great wonderful bring it on zap away any clown who steps out of line .. old england used to crack you on the head with a batton and leave people brain damaged .. America just shoots you down .. some may get a little hurt from a zap .. BETTER THEN A BULLET ! hey im shouting how naughty of me

By: mike_f596
28/08/2008
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apsmith .. hey in china they just beat the heck out of you , chuck you in a cell and take everything you own because you disagreed with the communist party .. then they beat your wife and kids for protesting about it .. sometimes bad things happen ..vancouver i refer to. once a guy walked out of a shop and was run into by a kid he fell hit his head and died ... umm so ban all kids ? i think im making a point i just cant recall what it was ..

By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
28/08/2008
1:39 pm

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Mike cant help but be a little smart here but whats the bibles stance on tazering the bad? Im not looking to start a fight but condoning pain in life when your sure that they will fry for eternity seams a little harsh no?

By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
1:42 pm

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Amnesty International are an alarmist shower of shyte.....did you know, and this is fact....that the NZ wing of amnesty Iternational, have a pact with Labour...never to question human rights in New Zealand....now anyone out there care to quote just one instance that proves this wrong....go right ahead...the drinks are on me............
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