By: mozzarella68
28/08/2008
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| STICK TO THE TOPIC PEOPLE! |
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| obvious troll is obvious |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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my apologies bubble 33,
There were portugese/spanish whalers that inhabited the top half of the north island pre colonisation, trading with early Maori to Australia, and there are descendants there even today.
As for the celtic/viking debate happening, it is still a theory yet to be proven like many, so I will just follow the thread.
It was reported two days ago that the skull that was found was reportedly linked to people of the Kurahaupo Canoe, actual confirmation to be announced in the next few days.
I apologise Mozarella for hi jacking the thread!! |
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By: bubble33@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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whateva mozzie, didnt realise you get marks for your posts...cant wait to mark yours!!
FA .. work that out you clever person you! |
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By: mozzarella68
28/08/2008
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Don't take yourself too seriously! I quite clearly stated that the point of this thread is to use reason and intelligence to argue your point.
If by "meal tickets" you are trying to say that if it were proven that there really was a pre-Maori people as early as 1200 AD and that if that were known then Maori wouldn't have any rights to claim anything - which is where I think you are going with that idea, then it is irrelevant because the British made the Treaty with Maori not anyone else.
Also, you didn't bother to prove that the Spanish were a credible threat to Maori.
And last but not least, a 300 year old skull does not prove that ancient Celts/Vikings visted NZ in 1200 AD.
So you see, you did deserve an F for effort! |
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By: powley9
28/08/2008
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| its a natural rock formation nothing more nothing less |
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By: mozzarella68
28/08/2008
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RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
The preposition of this thread is that the Ancient Celts/Vikings visited NZ sometime around 1200 AD as suggested by Martin Dourtre. Refer to page 1.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to use reason and intelligence to argue the point one way or the other.
I don't actually care what your point is. I only care that you make an effort to argue it.
With that in mind please observe the following rules of engagement:
* Do not make personal attacks since this only proves that you have run out of anything intelligent to say
* Make an effort to argue your point, don't just push your own agenda
* Respect other peoples opinions |
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By: kev.meg.co@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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| Pizza boy / girl ...LOL .. you have just discounted 99.9% of the posters on these boards ... and I am including myself .. hahaha |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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The british should have not been so slack. yhey had rules of war. as the french did not so much.
had the french come they would have bred any maori blood out. well theyr arent any real maoris left anyhow. they all mongrels from different races now.
i am not a hater but i bet i get treated like one for having my own opinion.they will generalise me |
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By: kev.meg.co@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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| I could add ... and I rest my case .... but .... that would be just plain rude :) |
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By: mozzarella68
28/08/2008
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You get an F for effort. Way too much conjecture. |
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You already did rest your case ;-)
F. |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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| i feel sad that you cannot communicate like non special people |
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By: mozzarella68
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Mate, I think you'd be better off in another thread because you are clearly having some trouble coming to grips with this one. |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
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also that. fact is they were a people of many cultures and they were never and still arent one people.
they are a group of many cultures that at the current time feel it more appropriate to scheme us all through pity,that they were a people.
fact is that they would eat each other.
ask te rapaaraha who went through pukerua bay and completely enilated anything alive at pukerua pa.
he started ngati toa and now they say they are the people of the land.they stole it also. |
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RULES OF ENGAGEMENT
The preposition of this thread is that the Ancient Celts/Vikings visited NZ sometime around 1200 AD as suggested by Martin Dourtre. Refer to page 1.
Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to use reason and intelligence to argue the point one way or the other.
I don't actually care what your point is. I only care that you make an effort to argue it intelligently.
With that in mind please observe the following rules of engagement:
* Do not make personal attacks since this only proves
that you have run out of anything intelligent to say.
* Make an effort to argue your point, don't just push
your own agenda with pointless conjecture.
* Try to use as much factual information as possible i.e.
something that can be corroborated.
* Respect other peoples opinions. |
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By: mike_f596
28/08/2008
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---RE: That Maori Pa forts are an "exact duplication of pre-Celtic hill forts"
is it , possibly ..or hmm maybe its just a common sense design . we may never know .Wish we could take a bunch of 18 to 25 yr olds from say new york .. because they don't know anything past iraq war and MacDonalds .. put them on a hill in the country and tell them they need to defend it against 80 men coming with swords and spears and see what they come up with .. that would be fun :)
oh, on the topic i truly wonder if they did visit .. and why didn't they stay or maybe they choked on a really big moa drum stick . Is there somewhere i can read about this Celtic stone? Was it brought here by some Scotsman who wanted to remember his backyard back home . |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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true that.
well i beleive that if a bunch of convicts that were forced from there island in the pacific can find there way to NZ. then i am sure ancient vikings could have whipped in.the question is did the vikings have the pleasure of a haka? |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
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true that.
well i beleive that if a bunch of convicts that were forced from there island in the pacific can find there way to NZ. then i am sure ancient vikings could have whipped in.the question is did the vikings have the pleasure of a haka? can you respect my opinion now? |
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true that.
well i beleive that if a bunch of convicts that were forced from there island in the pacific can find there way to NZ. then i am sure ancient vikings could have whipped in.the question is did the vikings have the pleasure of a haka? can you respect my opinion now? |
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By: lisachittick
28/08/2008
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Takitimu written by J>H Mitchell states the year 925 A.D that Kupe visited Aotearoa.
It is cetain that with the arrival of the expedition led by Toi about 1125AD the land was well colonised by some previously unknown, inferior type of people. Those wishing to solve the problem concerning the pre-Toi inhabitants must study the writings of P Smith, Dr Buck and E. Best. |
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By: mike_f596
28/08/2008
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lisachittick: save us some time and tell us more -
while we may at times sound like we jest -... we are still interested |
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By: theburtonfamily@xtra.co.nz
28/08/2008
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this subject is very intresting.
i think though priorities are weird.
did you know that handwriting is not taught in schools anymore! because it is not seen as a skill required for the future, so why do my kids need to learn TE REO?
they will never use it. |
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By: dabtoe17
28/08/2008
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| Of course the vikings came here first.They built a town andcalled it Dannevirke,you can still see the old ruins that remain to this day. Dont bother marking my work mozz,i`ll give myself a G |
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By: mike_f596
28/08/2008
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| the burt .. that question constitutes another thread altogether |
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