By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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filemaa!
it started from lies! okay he started a post a couple of months ago and used pakeha indigenous rights, and if those on the board disagreed he called them bigots
he used one liners of racial hatred and then came out later and said he was an artist and was using the board as a grounds to say there was continual bigotry by pakeha and maori alive and well in nz
dishonest method and lacked any integrity and as a result he has continued to stalk me, and no I will not take that sort of rubbish here or in the real world and am very defensive of my rights and others and women and children in general |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| fialemaa...the main facts here were deleted from the board which was a thread last night where Proud hounded Mar and did his usual antagonistic ploy but with a lot more rigour and he continued on today. His one track mind is enough to break a saint.I understand what has happened here and Mar got attacked at her core. What man attacks a woman? What man claims mana and refuses and makes excuses not to meet face to face when every effort was made to facilitate him. Mar gave him an honourable opportunity to stand on a Marae and speak his truth. He buckled and took it out on Mar at a level that is unexcusable. That is my opinion. Whilst Mar may not have responded in the best way, she responded as she has and I will never condemn Mar for that. I have come to know Mar quite well over the past few weeks and she has nothing to feel ashamed of. She is a human being and like all of us tends to err. What is is. Proud got what Proud got. If he does not like it then maybe if he changes his attitude as he has been encouraged to do many times then we would not be where we are now. People like Proud are simply and plainly poison in our society. |
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By: fialemaa
7/10/2008
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thanks mar
puts everything into perspective.
'i don't know much about art, but I know what i like' the quote goes. Doesn't sound like art to me. |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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that is fine filemaa lol!
I dont like liars, not even in cyber space, what I share on the boards is life experiences, why would one want to lie and then contradict.
I do not live that way and I will not go away, politics and such like is on fire in this country and if we are to be a true united country it has too start somewhere, for me it is with the mothers of children and that to walk hand in hand with their fathers and be proud of who they are and not ashamed. |
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By: fialemaa
7/10/2008
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thanks inbound.
I'll not add to the controversy by commenting further. |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| There would be a lot more space Adam. Overblown ego's like yours would take up too much space you egg. |
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By: fialemaa
7/10/2008
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ashamed of what mar? apologies if I'm opening old wounds? or is this not the thread for that discussion?
probably not aye? |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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thank you filemaa
thank you inbound! |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| If you want to stand with Proud Adam....you do that. It will get damned lonely though and cold. |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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lol! filemaa all is ka pai!
just in a bit of a quandry lol...still doing a legislative law assignment and crossing over...xxx |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| You are most welcome Mar!! Kia kaha! |
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By: fialemaa
7/10/2008
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sweet as mar
time for some singing. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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| inbound, you're a toady and a peddler of hate. keep up the abuse, so that others can view the pretty self portrait you paint |
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By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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| what song filemaa! |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| Excuse me Adam....what planet did you fall off! YOU are the one standing in support of Proud...champion peddlar of Hate. and I am sure people know that quite clearly. At the end of the day what people think of me, and that includes you, is of no concern to me. It is what I know myself to be that is of more importance. |
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By: kiwihiker@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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Hey guys - if we got back to the roots of this whole virtual debate, and accepted others' opinions are just that - opinions, then life will be a lot better. Our own opinions are based on what we believe, what we have seen, or what we have experienced, and no-one has the right to change that. Certainly we can be enlightened, and educated, and we can change our minds then if we wish - that is what a healthy debate is. There is no room or need for personal attacks.
proud - you have stated your views, but your persistance and comments have earned the ire of many people, and you have dis-respected those who you say you stand up for. Remember - whenever you point the finger, there are always 3 pointing back at you.
Use these threads constructively. If you have an axe to grind - use the right forum - seek the counsel of your MP or whanau, through the proper channels. Soap-boxing won't achieve anything, except fueling hatred. Life is to short for that. |
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By: kiwihiker@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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| adam - my OPINION was aimed at you too. Hope you didn't feel neglected... |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| kiwihiker.....lol!...amen to that! |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
7/10/2008
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i'm not sure i understand what you're saying, kiwi (and i'm sure inbound doesn't). are you just saying that everyone has their own opinion so please be nice?
sure, i support your statement that there is no room or need for personal attacks. there have certainly been waaayy too many of those on this thread.
but pointing the finger has value too. these boards are not all about expressing how much we love each other, they are also for discussions about serious issues. they're actually an excellent forum for heated debate, as posters can say what they really feel without fear of physical attack.
soap boxing often draws hatred, but the hatred does not come from the speaker |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| Nice game play and twist on words Adam. If you cannot understand what Kiwihiker is saying then it does not speak well for your powers of comprehension given that what he said is self explanatory. All you did was rearrange his words to accommodate your requirement to cause confusion. Kiwihiker has put it plainly. |
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By: inbound39
7/10/2008
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| All you have done Adam is rewrite Kiwihikers words to make your and Prouds behaviour justifiable and it abdicates you both for the responsibility of the outcome. You are not a good con artist. Try again. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
8/10/2008
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i didn't rewrite anything, inbound, and my behaviour was perfectly justifiable.
you're just not a good reader. |
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By: pigpot2007
8/10/2008
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Indeed so Adam and Victoria. I have now been attacked on the ritalin thread with threats of violence by WHKB1.
My response to the authorities is as follows:
Message board violation of the rules on the ritalin thread by WHKB1. Threats of violence towards myself after I pointed out quite rightly that it was a message board devoted to ritalin and his or religious point of view was not valid.
After this I have recieved a torrent of abuse and reported the first aggresive post by WHKB1. After this he / she continues to threaten and at one point talks about dispatching me and then talks about use of a gun.
I have made no threats at all and have questioned repeatedly what WHKB1 meant by what they have wrote.
This I would like to be treated with the uptmost urgency. This is the latest of two objections made by posters who would like a reasoned discussion. mar_ja complained about someone called proucannabal. |
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By: adam-victoria@xtra.co.nz
8/10/2008
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True, piggy. i haven't read the whole thread, but i know he said "Kei te haere au ka mate au kia koe me taku patu" which is really not very christian.
Do you think your complaint will get results? |
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By: pigpot2007
8/10/2008
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| We shall see! |
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