By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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| when you coming into town for your floor and salt and your dried meat and side of bacon powley?....better get in before the snows boy....Lol |
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By: wapn@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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| Good response cammo. I never use to know anything at all about the Treaty, however I put the effort into learning more and have been greatly suprised and interested about what it really means to all of us. A clear understanding has certainly changed my views. |
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By: powley9
12/07/2008
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| got a bit of bear fat to survive on this week thanks sol |
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By: cammo1@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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Thanks wapn
What did you read? Any recommendations for me? |
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By: kiwi_gurl53
12/07/2008
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Hello again powley9...Once again your WORDS and KNOWLEDGE
astounds me, maybe you should start a thread of your own
I for 1 would be there...However it has to make sense...
By the way powley9 are you a JOURNO...That is a good career
choice for you when you enrol at UNI...... |
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By: powley9
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| too old thanks and they dont do arhceology in waikato |
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By: wapn@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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Hey Cammo
Healing Our History, Robert Consedine or anything by him. |
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By: tokoroajaq
12/07/2008
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| Hey Powley im from the waikato too. Maybe thats why I relate to say much of what you say. |
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By: tokoroajaq
12/07/2008
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| I think it was Billy T James who said that people arguing over land is a bit like a couple of fleas arguing over who owns the dog they live on. |
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By: powley9
12/07/2008
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| i was born in tokaroa torphin cres |
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By: lilchick2279
12/07/2008
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| Never to OLD to learn NEW tricks powley9 |
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By: tokoroajaq
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| Great place aye! I lived in Auckland all my life and moved to tok two years ago. Couldn't go back the city even if I won lotto. Oh and Sol... We go to the forest to get our side of bacon! lol |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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powley9
You talk about tribal demands for sepearte states, which is not the objective of most Maori... Yet your own posts are littered with tribalism... this isn't about living "beside" each other, it is about living "with" each other with an understand and respect of the wonderful differences we have... That is the promise of the treaty... |
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By: powley9
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| lilchick if i went to uni just would be to smoke weed and have a good time so better to give it a miss. |
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By: powley9
12/07/2008
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| not getting into that today abu some seem to want that though |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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tokoroajaq
It's a quote from a crocodile dundee movie... Mick dundee uses it when asked about aboriginal land rights and references it to an elder he knows...
I used it in an essay I wrote at Varsity once...
If Billy T used it too, he stole it from that movie... |
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By: tokoroajaq
12/07/2008
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| Hey Abu I remember that now. Thanks for clarifying. I'm fairly certain I heard Billy T use it as well though. But could be wrong. Still its not a bad quote. |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
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prowley9...
The main word is "some" not all... harmony in NZ and equality is the only thing most of us want... but to do that we need to fix a huge mess created by our combined history... and the first challenge to us all is to understand that history... ignoring it is a very dangerous choice... Why do Maori fail at school? why are there more of them in prison then any other race? why do we top bad health stats? yet we know Maori (in the right environment) can achieve, we know Maori were hugely successful in the 1850s while the rest of NZ struggled in a depression... why?
If this nation is to get anywhere, it needs to understand these questions... and you as a member of this society have a choice to either be part of that understanding, and therefore the solution, or be part of the problem... Do you really want to be part of the problem???? |
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By: kiwi_gurl53
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Come on powley9...DONT let your age show....By the way
if you choose which UNI you want to go to NOW you will
be alright when it is time to go.....The WORLD is your
What is that saying ? OH Yeah....OYSTER
WHO says you are to old to learn ? |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
12/07/2008
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tokoroajaq
It's a great quote I use it alot... got a A- for that essay, should have been an A at least, but that reference was questioned and marked down... bloody lecturers have no sense of fun some times... |
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| Lecturers can be a bit serious! I enjoy a good laugh thats why I think its fun when someone like Powley throws in a few smart remarks on these posts. Well done on your A- (still an excellent grade). |
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By: powley9
12/07/2008
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| ok abu how can the treaty help maori with their problums ie too many in jail too many in gangs too many into a culture of voilance it seems to me all of the proceeds of these settlement are already going to maori that have got it together? |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
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| quoted the Phantom once in an essay too... that didn't go down too well... finished that qualification with an A- average... but as a lecturer once said to me "first learn how to pass, anything else you learn is luck"... |
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By: abu2@xtra.co.nz
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this is the problem promley...
The treaty of waitangi, and the history around it are not just about a piece of paper signed in 1840, or is about the payouts of the Waitangi Tribunal... there is a matrix of history and signifcant moments where Moari were set up to fail, and now that they have they are blamed for it...
You need to look beyond the media hype, the payouts, and pakeha backlash, look beyond the obvious anger on both sides, and look at the facts dispassionately... look at the laws that outlawed Traditional Maori Practices, look at the discrimination in our history for returned soldiers and land owners... look at an Education system that does not work for a Maori world view... all these are wrapped up in that history... |
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By: powley9
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| thats problums not answers |
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