By: shoemail@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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Hey, she took the money so the official case is closed.
Being in the public eye means more people get to see he is a plonker than the countless other cases out there every day. |
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By: jingledelz
10/07/2008
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I still can't believe that everyone of you are sitting here laying judgement on Tony when you know pretty much nothing about the incident.
I don't see how its any of our business what went on. They had an agreement and he made steps to amend his ways.
You are all saying he should be sacked from his job but I don't see how what he did is relevant to his employment. Sure, he's not a very good ambassador for NZ anymore but then you could also say he is. We have all these "reformed" violent men on TV telling us its "NOT OK" to hit women, how is Tony any different? He sort counciling which is a HUGE thing for a male to do and in my view proves he knew what he did was wrong and he wanted to overcome this.
I'm also rather appalled at the grilling his ex is getting by some of you. SHE DID NOTHING WRONG! She was beaten and he compensated her. If this had gone to court she would have received damages no doubt. That fact that this is now out in the media does kind of hint that maybe her or someone close to her has leaked the story - and that stinks. She is in breech of contract - she signed something to keep this matter private. Tony should sue her (tongue in cheek).
I don't condone violence toward women. I myself have been on the receiving end of a very angry fist. But Tony has taken steps to correct what he did. Sure it can't be undone but he attended counciling for a whole year, not a month, not 2 months, not even 6 months - a whole year.
Give the guy a break and try supporting him. That's what we should be doing when someone is trying to rehabilitate. |
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By: barks_uk
10/07/2008
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I think half of you at least are living on a different planet. All this sympathy for a worthless piece of garbage who, did not just snap, but cracked 4 vertebrae and caused head injuries which later forced her to give up her job.
He wanted to cover this up and talk of him being a man for going public is ludicrous; he was caught and he knew the proverbial was going to hit the fan.
This is not over either, as the police now have a confession to a vicious assult and they should arrest and charge him, then let a jury decide his fate. |
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By: barks_uk
10/07/2008
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| Jingledez, how much more do we need to know when he admits the assault. |
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By: jingledelz
10/07/2008
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Then you should only comment on the assault and what you know about it. As he said some of the things released by media was untrue.
You really have no evidence against the other issues you've discussed here.
I'm not condoning what he did at all! Who cares that he broke 4 vertbrae.. if he's just given her a slap across the face it would be just as wrong! Any violence toward ANY person is wrong. I don't see you all boycotting the All Blacks when they get into trouble to having drunken fights in the pubs. Nor did you probably boycott Van Damme movies when it came out he'd been beating his wife for years. |
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By: growandsmile
10/07/2008
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I agree with you Jingles. He has done wrong and he knew it then and he knows it now. I believe it was a one off nightmare for him and that he is not a violent person in general - competitive sure, but not violent by nature. He lost it for some reason and that may have been infidelity on her part. Still - At the time the 2 of them worked out a solution that best met both parties' needs. He has paid alot of money, had willingly had long term counselling and has paid a price.
There will be some public loss of confidence in him and perhaps as a sign of TVNZ's values, he should lose his top position as sports presenter on the news. Suggestions that he do public speaking about domestic violence should be followed up - sure this will feed his ego, but then I think he could be a great role model for guys to change their violent ways.
Prison won't help anyone here.
There is an opportunity to put his presenting skills to good use. Everyone will know what he has done and the shame and the public repair job he does could benefit many others. I would support such action. |
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By: barks_uk
10/07/2008
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| I have no intention of boycotting anything. I just want to see justice done here. The fact of who he is is irrelevant and a hospital report will confirm or deny the injuries. It seems strange that the hospital did not have to report the injuries to the police. Surley they were a little suspicious. The point is he confessed and he should now be brought before the courts. If they decide he is guilty then his employers then decide if the keeps his job. |
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By: jingledelz
10/07/2008
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| You know whats funny, this whole thread started with a comment about Helen Clark and writing to her. Everyone is saying she'll do nothing but this is just the type of thing she is likely to weigh in on. Pity she doesn't undertake counciling for a year.. maybe then we could get some sense out of her instead of all the petty cr*p she brings up about "Mum Mum, John Key did this" tattle tail, school yard bollocks. |
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By: jingledelz
10/07/2008
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Yes, I'm unsure how it was swung that her injuries were reported to police but if they were as bad as they were saying a story such as a car crash might have covered up well.
He's already being tried in the court of public opinion. |
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By: jingledelz
10/07/2008
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| Sorry that was meant to be "weren't reported" not were. |
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By: asbanc07
10/07/2008
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| Did she claim ACC ? If so then the $100k is silence money. Was Ralston aware of the situation ? Did the $100k come out of TVNZ's operating budget?. |
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By: gunna39@rocketmail.com
10/07/2008
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| I think that this lady agreed to be paid off so the money was more important to her than justice. Seem as how she was the one this happened to i dont really see that any of us have any reason to poke our noses into their private lifes. This happens everyday I dont like the guy anyway but if he was just a nobody with the money to pay her off we wouldnt have even heard about it. |
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By: petsville@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| leave him alone, he has owned up, if TVNZ sack him I will change to another news. Get over it u lot. |
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By: thekauriarch
10/07/2008
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| you either believe in violence or you don't, which is it? |
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By: freds.home@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| I agree Kazza. If Tony was a Mr nobody from up the road, nothing would be said about it. But because he is not that Mr nobody, all hell has broken loose. For goodness sakes how many people are involved in domestic violence every day in NZ and nothing is said or done about it. What he did was wrong and as he said, he has to live with that for the rest of his life. He is human and sometimes bad things happen. Leave the poor bugger alone and let all parties concerned get on with their lives! |
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By: marg.merv.hore@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| Get off Tony's back, go and look in your own mirror. Some of you make me sick and that includes the TV and Press. You can't keep out of other peoples business which had been settled by both parties. Now leave them alone, and welcome back Tony |
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By: ddord@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| They both reached an agreement to keep it out of the public eye. Fair enough. He had counselling and has obviously learnt by his mistakes. She obviously agreed as she took the money. Let sleeping dogs lie. All Blacks get away with everything so should he. |
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By: taniwha40
10/07/2008
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| This is very important! when people who are not in the publie eye commit same offences their names are publised in the paper so everyone reads it. I don't know what Tonys status is to you but to me he is a person who does sports shows on tv and is overpaid for the job. He has had several other incidences where he has 'lost his temper' which shows he has a problem with controlling his anger. Not a good look for someone who is on a tv channel that promotes issues re ITS NOT OK EVER! |
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By: feeandsteve@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| As someone who has suffered domestic violence I think anyone saying that Tony Veitch should be 'dealt too' is just perpetuating an ongoing problem in NZ - an eye for an eye is pathetic. I in no way condone what Tony has done however I do think the fact he went and sort help immediately shows guts - it aint easy facing up to a problem like that. The fact that he did go and seek help without being ordered to by the courts shows he understood what he had done was wrong really really wrong. All of this media coverage is detrimental to the message to others to go and get help - guys will end up to scard to get help concerened they will lose their jobs or worse - how does this break the cycle? - grow up people let him get on with his life and let the victim get on with hers and get past a really ugly inicident |
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By: laksmi_ishaya
10/07/2008
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....What an outpouring...this whole thing has obviously touched a nerve with the NZ public and is a great opportunity to shed some (healing) light on the subject.
As to what "happens" to him: I don't think he should present the Olympic coverage or be on those high profile sport shows...once again an opportunity for a fresh start (both for him personally and the publics' perception of him).
Maybe he could turn this situation into a positive for everyone; using his semi-celebrity status to promote awareness of alternatives to violence.
Then the issue can gain the importance it deserves: violence represents such a low point of human behaviour...for people on both ends of it.
Lets continue to talk about this issue...Tony Veitch could now be a force for good.... |
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By: freds.home@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| Other peoples names are not published in the paper. Nine times out of ten they receive name suppresion. As with other high profile people. Sometimes the crimes commited are far worse than a one off incident! It was not right what he did, we have long established that, the important thing here is that he has become pro-active in receiving counselling to remedy his anger problems. A pity more people didn't do the same. It takes a great deal of guts to firstly admit you have a problem and then to take positive steps to fix that problem. I commend him for at least taking those steps. Yes he stuffed up but hey we can all be guilty of stuffing up sometimes. He has to live with this for the rest of his life. Is that not punishment enough? |
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By: j.holmwood@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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| Hello people, I have read with absolute fascination the messages and views of you all. Lose the names of the people involved and look at it without emotion. We all have a duty to take responsibility for actions, and I believe that is being done in this situation. It should have been done at the time of the event. Responsibility on the victims part is to report the abuse, she had choices, report or accept a settlement and we know what course she chose. The abuser also had responsibilities, accept that his actions were reprehensible and find a way to modify those behaviours. I have no doubt the agreement between these people was negotiated with legal representation and was mutually acceptable to them, and that is the only point relevant. I abhor violence of any sort. We place too much emphasis on the "Celeb" thing, these people are no different to anyone else. Move on people, we have an election looming, now our responsibilities lie in how we choose the people and policy that will effect us for the next 3 years, this is another issue we should be looking at with out emotion. |
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By: busz9
10/07/2008
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Time to pay the piper and cash won't do it this time.
We all get stressed but we don't take it too the next level of getting physical, no excuses! Forget the "she'll be right" attitude, your a celebrity people look up too that doesn't put you above us. Time to GO! |
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By: greenstonegroup
10/07/2008
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| Get a life you losers that started this rubbish talk |
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By: bart_man@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2008
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I agree with you and jingledelz,Kazzabbe and Kev. The rest of you are a little bit over the top.
An agreement was reached..... and BROKEN. If he had owned up at the beginning he would probably have got 2 or 3 months community service.
Maybe it went public because:
1 His ex run out of money?
2 She wanted more?
3 she was prepared to B.l.a.c.k.m.a.i.l. hin to get it?
4 She threatened to go public for all of the above.
Maybe he went public so she couldn't keep scammin him?
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