By: tobes95
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| pj.1934 read the first line, maybe your comprehension isn't up to scratch. |
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By: gam.wilson@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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| National Party for me... |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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| nation will follow its policy of its partners , the business round table to screw wage eaners down as they did in the 90'so that their mates can reap large profits. they have this trickle down theory that stops before it reaches the average kiwi. all the while they spouting on about the wage gap with australia. what abunch of hypocrites, look how they opposed the raising of the minimum wage to $12. |
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By: robaman@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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Helen to all the People 1999 I want tO bring you open and Honest Government!! yeaa right!!
Trust her no more than a cornered Rattle snake This Woman thrives on ABSOLUTE POWER and it has corrupted her ABSOLUTLEY |
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By: cripplemronion@rocketmail.com
29/08/2008
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| Uping the min wage only gave labour more Tax income they give with one hand then cut both of your hands off so you cant do anything. Hes $20 a week more but we are going to charge you covertly on fuel food and levies on everything and your going to have to spend $30 a week to cover these. I mean sure vote labour if you happy not having choices in life and you want an over bearing mother to wont let you out of her sight to make sure you don't do anything. Who going to pay for all the welfare when none of us have jobs cause its easyier just to operate off shore? Sure I love my extra weeks holiday but you cant just keep adding straw to the camels back and not expect it to break, I'm not talking about muti million dollar companies I'm talking about small businesses that keep having more demands imposed on them. |
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By: clancydavid@rocketmail.com
29/08/2008
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| The Labour Government has lost its way. It is no longer the party for the common worker, but has turned into a abomonation. I do not belive any current polys as they are all as bad as each other. However I feel the best chance we have is to get the current government out and get rid of this MMP. (More members in Parliament, or More Maoris in Paliment)More Morons in Parliment? MMP is not good for this contry we are to small we could save money with less persons in Government. This country is going down the preverbial and unless we change the final flush will happen. Then we will be a Stare of Austrailia. |
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By: dianamcgregor234
29/08/2008
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| Me too gamwilson Just going to Nat Party luncheon in Oamaru to hear Chris Finlayson |
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By: kiwibloke48
29/08/2008
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My god, me thinks that every stupid minded leftee is replying to this. What is wrong with you people u obviously can see the roses for the trees, National is the ONLY party that can right the wrongs, and as for secret agendas it was the bloody
young dickbrain Labourites that tried it on NO ONE else. |
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By: max.granger1
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| at the moment the nanny state is run by ninnies or is it the ninnie state run by nannys. roll on the election |
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By: robaman@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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This isnt mine but is so good I have to share it with you so sad that its true.
Welcome, Helen, to ‘Banana Republics (Advanced module 3). You have passed the first two modules ‘Slowly Degrading the Existing System’ (module 1) and ‘Passing laws to Render Corruption Legal’ (module 2).
Course Aims: replace previous democratic practices with a more efficient system. Course Objective: implement a fully-fledged ‘banana republic’.
Forming a ‘Banana Republic’ needs a catalyst, a series of events, and/or a gameplan to execute.
First, actively undermine the democratic process. Methods include producing misinformation before an election. Disregard your spending caps to your advantage while persuading people to ‘vote’ for you. Any body entrusted with overseeing fair elections may be deceived. When re-elected, put compliant operatives into it and change your mind. They won’t do anything.
In response to critics, delay, prevaricate and promise ‘an inquiry’. Make sure you get a wealthy backer to ‘loan’ you the pay-off.
Change the laws governing inefficient election-processes. If financially compromised, create a fictional ‘enemy of democracy’ then draft a law to exterminate its pernicious influence on ‘ordinary people’. This will facilitate:
Changing the way elections are organised;
Limiting opposition access to spending and time to campaign, say for a third of the electoral cycle, and
gain access to billions of cash dollars to promote ‘feel-good’ media bursts to ‘inform the public’ about your policies.
Hammer home the advantage to control the timing of your next election, so that the opposition is further disadvantaged, and wrong-footed by a ’snap-election’.
Keep a discrete distance from your wealthy backer. Always prevaricate and delay any action about the alleged corruption for as long as possible. If necessary, as a last resort, be prepared to announce ‘an inquiry’.
If the public are dissatisfied use a highe ... |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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| What about national in 90's they so screwed the average kiwi. as for fuel and food price increases it seems that national supporters think that Helen Clark governs the world market. its probably national supporters who are responsable for increasing prices more than is required togive themselves another excessive pay rise at our exspense. |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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pj.1934,
Are you kidding? So much damage to this economy has been done by this government's foolish or ignorant spending, it may take another 10 years at the best for it to recover, that is provided we have a government who understands these things.
NZ should be easily in the top 5 most prosperous countries in the world like we used to be(Before Muldoon). Now we are 19th compared with Australia's 3rd! Hardly a recovery to credit Helen Clark's government with I would say, in spite of the buoyant economy that she inherited:(
(United Nations Development Program's Human Development Report 2007/2008, compiled on the basis of 2005 data and published on November 27, 2007) |
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By: dhume200
29/08/2008
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Wrong xtr.
The economy was booming up until a year ago. It wopuld be wrong to say that the govt was solely responsible for this boom but by the same token, it is wrong to criticise them for bringing the economy down as well. Tell me one country where the economy is going really well in the world?
New Zealand is far too small not to be affected by things like the credit crunch in the US. It is hared to see how the labour govt caused the US credit crunch! |
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By: buckleyclaire@ymail.com
29/08/2008
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| It's not about 1 party or the other. The way politics works best is if it changes on a regular basis. 9 years was too long in power for the Nats in the 90's and 9 years is too long for the Labs in 00's. The problem with politics in the this country is MMP. Bring on STV. Something where the country is not ruled by the minority parties. They should have their say but not dictate to the majority which is what happened here. There are too many examples to list! |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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dhume200,
You must be too young to remember the pain when NZ had to deal with inflation last time. The problem with Labours economic handling is that they have both over spent and spent unwisely which is the classic cause of inflation. It will be painful to get inflation back under control even now(Why do you think the interest rate is so high right at the moment?)
After Muldoons crazy government I remember interest rates at the banks over the 20% mark during the recovery period! |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
29/08/2008
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| so what laws, passed or unpassed, have the minority parties influenced, that have had a detrimental effect on new zealand. hmmm? |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| overspent eh? and national say theyer gonna borrow so they can spend even more. good one |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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| Before Muldoon!! wasn't that when the average tax payer was paying benifits to farmers in the form of subsidies? |
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By: buckleyclaire@ymail.com
29/08/2008
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| let's see, the knee-jerk dog laws,(greens), the Anti-smacking legislation (Sue K - Greens), the copyright law which makes it possible for copyright holders to sue the ISP's for copy-right infringement no sure who spear-headed that stupid one. Want me to continue? And Labour make laws that are badly worded and therefore leave all manner of litigation to occur. Not to mention laws that start clauses like such exceptions will be:_______ and the law is brought into being with massive blank sections because they didn't finish it! |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
29/08/2008
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| what the hell is a knee jerk dog law. the antismacking bill is great. how was the copyright law detrimental to nz. yes go on please |
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By: buckleyclaire@ymail.com
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| The dog law that the greens mooted after the a couple of dog attacks. Let's digitally tag all dogs. Ok because forcing people who will abide by the law and actually get their dogs tagged are likely to be the ones with dogs that are attacking. Same goes for anti-smacking legislation, there are still just as many cases of babies and children being beaten to death at the hands of parents as there was before. The people who beat their kids are not going to stop because of a law. They know it's wrong they could have been charged criminally under the old laws anyway, now the government interferred with good parents wanting to parent their own way. The copyright law means that your average internet user can now have all of their actions monitored by the ISP for copyright infringement as unlike the Aust law their is no safe-harbour clause for the ISP. Therefore the ISP's are now liable for the actions of their clients. Therefore they are going to need to monitor internet use by their users. Can you not see how stupid and detrimental that is? |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
29/08/2008
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| Really Jamison, your comments don't make a lot of sense, so its difficult to give them a reasonable answer. I think you are better off talking about building where you might have picked up something hopefully. Oh and you better think how you can best divest yourself of the means of production that you have, else people might think you are a capitalist in spirit as well as truth. Have you given any thought to forming a building collective? |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
29/08/2008
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| tagging all dogs is good. of course the anti smacking law wont stop child beatings but it was made to stop abusers useing the defence of "reasonable force". it works. i duno bout that copyright law, but i cant see how its so detrimental to nz and our standard of living. is that all youve got ? |
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By: vallynz
29/08/2008
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What i read on here re helen clark are alot of personal insults about her appearance and the re accuring theme of the speeding instance. Just answer me something..should a passenger in a car be held responsible if the driver is speeding?
With the current world wide ecomony situation i would hate to see a change of government in nZ to upset the apple cart even more..best to go withthe 'better the devil u know' feeling i reckon...especially if you are in kiwibank or kiwisaver. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| no xtr, no one can put up with me long enough to form a collective. |
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