By: powley9
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| thats right leave propaganda to the experts ? |
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By: dfarrelly@xtra.co.nz
12/08/2008
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Exactly. I don't mind people with views, it's healthy. But if you make a statement about Key and he MIGHT sell assets... don't forget to mention that Cullen and Clark actually HAVE sold assets.
To suggest otherwise is not true and makes the people that parrot the banshee's screeching look as dumb and dishonest as she DEMONSTRABLY is.... |
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By: kev.meg.co@xtra.co.nz
12/08/2008
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| I don't know about the next guy but is anyone else worried about the sale of electricty supply to a super power with whom you have just signed a "free trade agreement" .... in a couple of years when NZ is baulking at some of the conditions of our 'free' trade - could the lights in Wellington just not be turned off until the Govt of the day saw sense? ... or the Chinese way of thinking |
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By: tgod_123
12/08/2008
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| dfarrelly@xtra.co.nz - he hasnt "sold assests" because he's not been the PM! |
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By: apjohnstone@xtra.co.nz
12/08/2008
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| At the moment i would trust helen clark,as apposed to the national party and their secret agenda,what other option have new zealanders got. I do feel though that they are not looking after the lower paid and impoverished people,if you have kids and working great,but if you dont then poverty is the only state you know, and this is venimently denied by the present government who always starts comparing the past with now,the now says there is dire poverty in this country, that is fact.National will only add to that poverty and have more people living in shop doorways and under bridges than ever before.There is an iminent recession and national wants to time that with strict policies with benefits and have people get a job or else reduced money then no money,when in actual fact business are feeling the squeeze as well,the timing is out the sentiment is wrong,the outlook for the people in nz is concerning,do we want to see people with begging bowls on the streets?.My message is to both political parties is you were put there by the people to act on behalf of the people and you recieve a very generous salary to do so,however the policies you bring in do not reflect the needs of the people you claim to represent. |
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By: mdrennie@xtra.co.nz
12/08/2008
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| You will always get people who don't want to work and just hold their hand out for the next meal/smoke/drink. We live in a world were everyone can get ahead if they want too. leave the losers to rot and hopfully they won't breed before they expire. It's a natural cycle in al forms of life. |
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By: cristalbaul
12/08/2008
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1/. Cannot recall any major legislation that has been enacted during her tenure ?
Mainly social engineering. Certainly nothing of any substance.
2/. Too many overseas trips on some pretense or other - eg. Valencia etc etc...
Trust her ? she seems to very expediently play the dummy when caught out.
When questioned after traveling at 180 kWh - her reply: "didn't notice".
I seem to recollect that when questioned after her party president suggested they use Government Department advertising for electioneering material: "haven't had time to speak to him about it yet".
When asked one morning recently to meet with protesters, she claimed that she was too busy getting ready for two announcements that evening...
It has often seemed that judging by her appearance during an evening TV announcement, she seemed to have spent some time that afternoon having her hair styled for the occasion. fair enough. However, when she claimed that she was too busy during a morning, for other than those evening announcements - I was horrified to deduce that not only did she spend an afternoon getting ready, but most of the day to prepare and deliver her evening spin doctors speech. |
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By: cristalbaul
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| There was also the question of some $800,000 spent on a pledge card which was initially disputed as being illegal. |
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By: tgod_123
12/08/2008
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I dont trust any politician, especially around election time when they all pull out the bull to gain your vote.
Usually decide a little closer to election time, depending who presents the more realistic plan, not proposals or concepts or even ideals, hate the hype! |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| tgod Don't you think it would be a good idea if all political parties were compelled to publish a binding constitution that all their policies had to adhere to? |
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By: noblok1080
13/08/2008
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| Great in theory xtra459383 ....can't see it working while we have MMP (I'll scratch your back if you sell your soul)... |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| What does that mean nobloke? that you will vote for me if I stick my neck out?:) |
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By: svoford@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| Trust Helen YES YES YES Better than a Banker |
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By: hazledine@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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I am not convinced by any party at this stage....Labour -stale
National- old agenda |
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By: noblok1080
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| hahaha xtra...no that was my explanation of how MMP works...not directed to you personally... |
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By: charismoon7@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| Yes I do think that Helen is the best PM we have had! Im sick of soooo many people saying that its ok to sell NZ out! Lets say Kiwibank,whats next? Helen has gotten us out of overseas debt and brought back things that National ok'd to sell! As for Keys, there is a hidden agenda and he's the front man for it!What about enviromental stuff,our high rents that investors can charge us(for a rundown cold house). Its such a shame that telecom was sold to overseas all those years ago, now look at whats happening, job losses. So Yes, Helen is a great PM |
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By: bloobie@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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If you haven't seen Helen in person how can you judge?
We all know how cruel the camera can be, and if there is a ploy to make things look that way....well..what can I say?
Like a few here I am also worried about Key's hidden agendas.... |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| charismoon7 I don't suppose you have noticed any secret agenda from Helen Clark's government by any chance? Or perhaps you like paying excessive taxes so they can be used irresponsibly.If you don't live in Wellington when was the last time you used a train? Oh and do you actually pay tax? Of course beneficiaries like Helen Clark. Maybe if we all become beneficiaries she will be a permanent government. |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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bloobie...I take it you have seen her in person, Helen Clark that is, without the benefit of a melt down lense...lol.
I'm sure that would make a huge difference to some...I still say she is as ugly as hell, and mostly by way of her personality.
I can't understand how guilible some people can be, in that, I am discounting those who have allowed themselves to become dependent on her handouts, and see no option but to seek her continuance in power...but is simply not going to happen. If by some horrific ungodly act she was returned, I'm sure that in a very short space in time, there would be an uprising, the likes of which we have not yet seen.
This, is a government of liars and cheats...they have few if any morals. They practice their own forms of sexism, racism, and ageism....all is about to be revealed and not before time. |
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By: charismoon7@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| Yes I do pay taxes, thank you Im also on the verge of losing my job as there have been cutbacks due to the recession,which in my belief would not have hit us like it did if we werent so reliable on investors from other countries.I hear what you are saying about beneficiaries,but those on the DPB are paid a majority from liable parents which is millions a year! As for those on the dole now to me thats another thing I do not support long term dole! And who cares what Helen looks like? Its the job that maketh the woman,with everything going on this is just woman bashing,Im not a feminist either |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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| charismoon7, Hate to tell you this, but NZ as a trading nation will always be reliant on overseas markets. Would you rather we were a real third world country? And our friend Helen rode the wave of good economic times, of which she deserves no credit, and the recession would be biting less if we had been taxed sensibly and our tax money spent wisely. |
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By: watissed@rocketmail.com
13/08/2008
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Vote National and the workers will be back to days of people walking the streets and no jobs.
We have seen it all before. They cut pensions and stole their meagre savings.
All the national government does, is look after the moneyed people.
Do you really think John Keys cares about the workers.
And as for the cutting of benefits, he is a man of no feelings whatsoever.
I trust Helen Clark.
GO LABOUR.GO LABOUR |
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By: machint@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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Helen's a terrific PM and who cares what she looks like ? I haven't come across anyone on these boards who says John Key looks blank, Muldoon a dwarf, etc etc.
I trust her. |
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By: glentz@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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Replying to post 'Trust Helen Clark' in 'Top Stories'
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This is Freedom of Speech, isn't it???!!!
I rest my case, thank you very much! |
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By: robaman@xtra.co.nz
13/08/2008
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If she cared what she looked like she would get her Teeth fixed they look like an old Camels teeth!! Definitely not like the Air Brushed Photo they show of her.
Trust her Definitely not hidden agendas more Social Engineering allowing for their sexual perversions!!
I see Ruth Dyson has been forced to deny her speech by Helen and Heather Simpson bet they both gave her a real but walloping for telling the public about their hidden agendas. Mind you they probably would have all enjoyed the but walloping. |
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