By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
16/08/2008
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| i do too. more than the nats at least. way more |
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By: pauline_davison
16/08/2008
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| It seems that many people on here slam Helen Clark into the ground, then jump on her but hey she aint that bad & do you really think National is gonna be any better, look at all their "hidden agendas" - many secrets they sure don't want us all to know about before the Election - can't trust them either, so backoff from Helen Clark, she not that bad!!! |
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By: trinal@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| People forget easily; it wasn't that long ago that your precious Helen introduced the biggest threat to a democratic process and hampering freedom of speech with the hugely controversial Electoral Finance Bill. I don't understand how people consider that the Labour Party and Helen Clark are transparent and upfront. It's laughable really. Remember the tax payer funded Pledge Card, that promised no more taxes? How many taxes have been introduced since then? About 10 I believe. What about the changes to the Bail Act designed to empty out our prisons and relieve space? Where are these criminals? Right back in the community. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
16/08/2008
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| no ones transparent and upfront are they. look at the kiwi bank debacle |
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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'....so, back off from Hele...she no so bad..'
What the hell is that?
Asian? |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
16/08/2008
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| solutionzzz abuses and adds nothing of worth. |
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By: trinal@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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"no ones transparent and upfront are they. look at the kiwi bank debacle"
Wasn't that a nice distraction? The only problem with that was National bought into it lock, stock and smoking barrel - and the rest of the NZ voting public went along for the ride. Completely threw people off the Winston tack, and hasn't Winston been incredibly quiet since? |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
16/08/2008
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| national didnt have a choice. they were exposed for the lying rats they are |
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16/08/2008
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By: solutionz@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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'....national didnt have a choice. they were exposed for the lying rats they are....'
How's that from an absolute d.i.c.k.h.e.a.d.
greener than a harlot's spew.....thicker than a month old dog t.u.r.d. jamisonjohn |
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By: trinal@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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| Hmmm and the honest politician is? Non-existent. |
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By: dodge3869
16/08/2008
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| sorry but i disagree i for one will be voting for her,,national can't even keep there leader when they are in and if yr on the benifet you wouldn't be voting them at all i am on the benifet but i also work but i can't work full time and if they get in they will take our benifet away maybe thats what you want |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
16/08/2008
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Keeping leaders? What about the Lange Labour Government then? Lange went off with his new girlfriend leaving at least two others to subsequently fill in for him until deservedly they lost the election.
So Dodge did you ever consider voting for whats best for the country and therefore the majority of citizens(which would include your children) or vote for what will be most comfortable for YOU in the short term?
Its for people like you that Helen Clark's government has steadily increased the number of citizens that depend on the state. Kiwi saver is an example. Did you ever wonder why they just couldnt give a simple tax cut? Anyway she knows that once people are dependant on the state, they will vote just the way you are intending. Easier to bribe in effect. |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
17/08/2008
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Dodge,
pity I was looking forward to your answer |
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By: tommyonions@xtra.co.nz
17/08/2008
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"Winston is a lone stallion amongst a pack of mules"
Just spotted this - made me laugh. Is this a coded reference to the coiffed one's portfolio? |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
17/08/2008
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| A lot of us remember the 90's and what National didthen. Itseems they haven't changed their spots, still the front for the business round table. |
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By: public_emilly
17/08/2008
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| National has softened their radical neo lib reforms, but they are a right leaning party, so they are always going to be ideologically focussed towards free market economics, little government intervention, and a base idea that inequality is a fair outcome of the market if it allows us the freedom of indiviual choice. Of course to go the whole hog is to remove state intervention in the form of welfare, and they would lose way too many voters to make that decision. |
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By: larry.burke@xtra.co.nz
17/08/2008
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| Free market means an unempolyment rate of 6% or more to suppress wages and create a 3Rd world wage structure. This is so that society becomes 2 tier to suit the 200 or so who seek to control most of the New Zealand economy. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
17/08/2008
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| the so called freedom of free trade is nothing more than the freedom to exploit. |
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By: public_emilly
17/08/2008
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| Freemarket economics is a model that was never about real life or people, it was never about fairness, it has never recognised gender, ethnicity or class, it is about money. |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
18/08/2008
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Wow did anyone notice? the thread "Helen Clarke's Fraudulence" just got deleted. Someone is looking after aunt Helen.
Check out this blog I found if you want a good brief summary:)
http://helenclark.wordpress.com/ |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
18/08/2008
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| Who was it who said we don't live in a police state? Haha |
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By: glasspida
18/08/2008
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| Happens all the time xtr - gets too real and they can it. |
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By: public_emilly
18/08/2008
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| looks like the veitch thread was ditched as well |
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By: xtr459383@xtra.co.nz
18/08/2008
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public_emilly, Fairness is about allowing people to enjoy the fruits of their labour. Is it "fair" if the tax payer gives someone a house to live in, pays them a benefit, when this person for one reason or another has not taken advantage of the free education (also supplied by the tax payer) and sort no worthwhile skills and makes no effort to find paid employment.
Now I know people just like that, who actually brag that they are able to avoid working.
I don't think thats fair at all! |
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