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By: ari_jo2002
15/09/2008
3:02 pm

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sean micheals... your bigotry and intolerance appears to be showing.

Listen to ropativ.

By: jdyhrberg70
15/09/2008
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Dont chuck the PC rubbish at me Sean...my father and grandfather before him fought for freedom and fairness against bigotry and bull dust and I have done my bit as well. I have travelled with an open mind and I understand the fears and behaviour of ignorant people. What they dont see is the problems they are creating for their own children to deal with and I dont want to see a NZ like you are espousing - sitting back in your lounge chair and making huge generalisations based on your selective view of the world.....wake up..

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
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ropativ,How come i never hear any of your MODERATES Condemning these actions of your fellow radicals.Never hear you guys march to condemn the suicide bombers.As far as im concern,you're as bad as the RADICALS.

By: ropativ
15/09/2008
3:06 pm

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I am not a muslim Seanmichaels...but I'd been living with them for more than a year in a Islamic State....I know...when you'd been in their midst, you'd know. And of course, the moderates are complaining loudly there....

By: jdyhrberg70
15/09/2008
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Sean... how come you dont march against Yankee imperialism....there is only a few human bombers compared to the number of american/western troops actively killing in muslim countries....one thing heavily in favour for Clarke with me is she kept NZ on its own path, a free thinking, independant, country.

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
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jdyhrberg,do you know what,PC people like you will end up *** i n g this country up!!!!.NZ will one day encounter these problems that our neighbour Indonesia is facing.MUSLIMS will one day DEMAND their own STATE in NZ.When that happens,i wish i could come looking for you.

By: bruceduke800
15/09/2008
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I agree that there are good Muslims. However there is a militant minority that is extremely bad news. Its also kind of hard to tell them apart. World wide Muslims have difficulty getting on with there neighbours and they always blame the neighbours!

By: stupidider
15/09/2008
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Put it this way. A new study in London showed that 1 in 5 muslim students believe killing in the name of islam is sometimes justified. 1 in 4 believe that the UK should incorporate some aspects of sharia law into their legal system. What country would allow foreigners to come in and demand the laws of a country be changed to suit their needs, what's more when those laws directly contradict the native laws of that country? I'm not from NZ but you people are treading in DANGEROUS waters by turning your heads to this.

By: jdyhrberg70
15/09/2008
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I live in Masterton, am well known - just ask for me. You are the sort of person who sends other people to do your dirty work...go and join the marines and do some of the killing you like so much yourself.....

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
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rpativ,complaing loudly is NOT whispering in their MOSQUE.How come Moderates are financially supporting their Radicals.Thats not complaing loudly.In your face yes,behind close doors,NO!NO!!!!!

By: ropativ
15/09/2008
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President Sadat was assasinated when he was loudly denouncing the actions of these radicals who called themselves muslims...muslim religion has strict rules against murder of fellow human beings...but of course there have been middle east political issues involved in this instance...esp. Israel and Palestinian conflict....

By: ari_jo2002
15/09/2008
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sorry ropativ, I appear to have set him on you. and that wasn't my intention.

I too live in an islamic country, and sean micheals intolerance and ignorance makes me ashamed to be a kiwi.

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
3:14 pm

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jdyhrberg,I hate the killing of innocent people.Countries close to us are not in the WAR with the States.Its just the MUSLIMS demanding their OWN STATES in that country.Dont underestimate these people.I have three young kids and i hate to see them one day have to fight for the rights to be a KIWI not a Islamic KIWI!!!

By: datagarble
15/09/2008
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you mean they drink heaps of p1ss,smoke lots of sticky buds ,and womanise?

By: ropativ
15/09/2008
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...the media also played a large role in the misconception we have towards the real situation of the muslims...it's true the murderers are from a Islamic State, but that doesn't mean they are true muslims...when these radicals attacked the tourists in Luxor, Egypt in 1997, they were all killed by the government soldiers. In Arabic newspapers they are denouncing the actions of these radicals...but they are rarely sensationalised by western media...

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
3:17 pm

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ropativ,i think you're just too blind to wake up.So all the killing in Indonesia,in our back yard,those people who claims that they kill in the name of Allah are not real muslims.You are kidding ...RIGHT!!!!.Jordan,whos doing the killings,christians,Saudi Arabia...whos killing those innocent people,christians,,,,

By: jdyhrberg70
15/09/2008
3:18 pm

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Your are creating fears that only exist in your mind Sean. Enough people think like you then we will be where Australia is next, then after that like where Britian is now.....you want that? People when pressed fight back....

By: ropativ
15/09/2008
3:19 pm

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...murderers and radicals in a Muslim Country....is all

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
3:19 pm

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ari,im just a concern KIWI.I dont want NZ to be an Islamic State.

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
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ari,im just a concern KIWI.I dont want NZ to be an Islamic State.

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
3:22 pm

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jdyhrberg,you're unbelieable.In Britain,they have clerics preaching violence and recruiting young people to kill for Yallah!!!Nz is a nations with so many religions which happens to just preach PEACE.Never heard of those religions trying to rule the WORLD.Im a mormon,never hear of mormons killing in the name of their religion.

By: seanmicheals122
15/09/2008
3:28 pm

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jdyhrberg,im not in anyway trying to put fear in peoples minds .They can do that for themsleves.Im sure they can read and think for themselves.Reality is!!!,Muslims seems to be trouble.They blame everyone else for their plights but themselves and their corrupted goverments..Some of them came from very rich countries and they bring their hatred for their own goverments to our doorsteps.

By: ropativ
15/09/2008
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ari jo...I too was like seanmichaels until I lived, dined and slept with the many muslim people while in a Islamic State for more than a year...they are normal people with a thorn on their side - the radicals and murderers. They are no different from us.....like I said, these radicals are like a thorn on their side...

By: ari_jo2002
15/09/2008
3:30 pm

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christians of all kinds have killed in the name of their god through out their history!
NZ will never be an Islamic state, we are secular for heavens sake...you are being paranoid and weird about a religion you know nothing about. Islam teaches peace. The terrorism rife throughout the world has nothing to do with Islam per say, but money, land, power and politics. It wouldn't even be of interest to the western world at large if there weren't great quantities of oil and gold at stake. Who's looking after their own bottom line?

By: tareqalawneh
15/09/2008
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Yep keep watching CNN my friends!
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