By: gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Good on ya yellow, you go ahead and vote for destiny, good on ya, a vote for them is a vote for HATRED. We'll be worse off than we are now. |
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By: kaituna2003
29/09/2008
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| thank you gaba ....very well put , good comment on your opinion......I agree with your thread. But there is know need to abollished maori seat's...... as maori have the right to vote for maori party , If all maori decided not to vote for maori so be it then there would be NO maori seat's...end of story....But not so... the seat's are still there. so that mean's they have voter's..and some of you need get away from the racist thought's , 'JUST' some. |
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By: gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Cheers kaituna. |
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By: fivesense26@rocketmail.com
29/09/2008
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| pakeha and european have a considerably higher % of population of pedophilia than maori |
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By: kaituna2003
29/09/2008
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| Ooh 5cents why did you have too say that....lol |
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By: fivesense26@rocketmail.com
29/09/2008
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| why not it is the truth |
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By: rockgeko1
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| European makes up 67% of the population of course there will be more in parliment, just like they will have more crime as they are the largest part of the population. |
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By: bcfairlie
29/09/2008
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i don't think the maori seats should be abolished until such time as maori have grown out of the need for them.
I hope this country dose not choose to become a republic until it has grown up and got over these petty race issues.
it's holding us back people......... |
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By: stacy200076@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Hi, I live in the King Country. Do you know what King Country means? I'm not going to tell you, go look it up for yourself. In the King Country there is Maori and Pakeha. Pakeha call themselves New Zealanders now or even Aoteroaian's. When then, when the treaty of Waitangi is over and done with would Maori want Maori seats anymore? Wouldn't the seats up for voting be there's too? |
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By: buckleyclaire@ymail.com
29/09/2008
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| I think the seats should go, they are seats based on race, yet other races are able to have their views represented in parliament by elected officials of their own race. Pansy Wong for example. So if you go down the road of seats for "special needs" why not a disabled seat that represents physically and mentally disabled, or since 10% of the population is Gay why not 12 gay designated seats. At the end of the day, sexual orientation, race, appearance, do not define us, they are simply part of us as a whole, to assume that all Maori are well represented by the people in the Maori seats is condescending and assumes all Maori agree on all issue. How stupid is that? |
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By: chrisan555@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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Treaty of Waitangi
Article 2 of the English version guaranteed to Maori "the full exclusive and undisturbed possession of their Land and Estates Forests Fisheries and other properties which they may collectively or individually possess so long as it is their wish and desire to retain the same in their possession".
So when we talk about equality for all it must be remembered that the above article does not include everyone only those of Maori descent and that's the way it is. It isn't racist it is a contract that Maori made with the Crown in 1840 when many of the nationalities who are here now weren't. Those in the Maori seats are the ones best able to address Article 2 as those are the ones who are most interested to protect Maori interests in Article 2.
As the country moves on and more move in their work in ongoing |
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By: loyallisa
29/09/2008
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| Yes another maori political bashing this should be a good one here we go round 100056 |
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By: dustine.smith@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| ae keep the Maori vote, after many generations of injustice,and adaptibility they have had to endure, i think they have done very well, there are alot of issues that have stemmed from there adaptation, to the pakeha ways and not to mention they are the natives of new zealand,they deserve there seats in parliament. |
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By: loyallisa
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| Do you really think maori sit around worrying that their is no more full blooded maoris left no they over that already theyve moved on in a way we glad that they not here to listen to all this racist critisism its no good for their health way to negative they resting in peace and god bless them. |
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By: maketu_honky
29/09/2008
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If the Maori seats in Parliament assist with the advancement of Maori issues for the betterment of Maoridom then why not maintain the status quo.
There is no disadvantage for the remainder of the population by the retaining of Maori seats and the existence thereof has no detrimental effect on the majority of the population. If the Maori voters want the Maori seats retained surely there can be no compaints from the rest of us - what does it really matter? |
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By: chrisan555@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Maketu: well put |
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By: nadine.kramer@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Could i ask, what could be a dumb question.Can a non maori vote for a Maori party. |
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By: chrisan555@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| I stand to be corrected But I think Maori Party are only having candidates in Maori Seats so electors must be on Maori roll |
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By: nadine.kramer@xtra.co.nz
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| If this is the case. I dont think they should be abollished, but there should be change. I am against a party that only some people can vote for. That is not democracy (spelling). |
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By: kaituna2003
29/09/2008
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Anyone can become a Electorate's wether you are Maori ,English ,Asian , Islander , Arabic , Indian , ect.. and if that is what you stand by so be it.
It's just that maori do have seat's , So any of the above
nationality's go for it ,i ain't gonna complain. |
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By: chrisan555@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| As I and others have previously said the Maori Party is there to represent the interests of Maori as they have many issues to deal with regards Article 2 of the Treaty. |
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By: nadine.kramer@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| This is not the point. If any other nationality decided to have a party that only a certain nationality can vote for i would still say that was wrong. And dont get me wrong i am not against the party, anyone has the right to form a party, as long as anyone can vote for any party, this is my issue. |
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By: nadine.kramer@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| chrisan, i find that statement a little weak. I have a very Autistic son i have alot of issues to deal with, this dose not mean i can go out and start an Autism Party that only these people can vote for. I know thats a very stupid statement on my behalf, but yours sounded the same to my ears. |
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By: kaituna2003
29/09/2008
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Yes i understand chrisan and i support what you have said
about. Article 2 of the treaty. "Tino Rangatiratanga"...
Partnership go's hand in hand , Maori and the Queen's Crown |
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By: chrisan555@xtra.co.nz
29/09/2008
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| Maori are in the unique situation of having been signees of a Treaty (contract) with the English Crown in 1840. In todays terms that's a contract between Maori and everyone else who is here. The Maori Party represents those Maori who choose to vote for them and I am sure that they would love your vote. Only those of Maori descent on the Maori roll can do that |
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