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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
5:24 am

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mar; you're an idiot. Those 'three' morons you are sucking up to are in fact one terrorist loving jew hater with a fractured personality. Yesterday inbred couldn't even work out the difference between two 'xtra' contributors. Hope you fall into a puddle of your own drool.

By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
5:28 am

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hey i am not an idiot thank you very much, no need to be nasty so early in the morning..geeze and one is not a sucker at all...ffs! get a grip, not my issue thank you very much! debate away and say and think what you like..xtr! judgemental of you!

By: mar_ja@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
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HERE IS MY OPINION... it has been on this board many times...DEATH AND DYING SUCK..TOTALLY ..what a freakin waste, but war is a reality, no matter whose war and which country..people die, especially the INNOCENT.. victims of..greed and a lot of it! blow that out of your ear..and oh watch out for the drool you may SLIP ffs!

By: robaaman@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
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Did Brian know this person?

Bobsagoodbuggerer....this is the act of a Chosen One....not a good look is it Bob!

An east Jerusalem man in his 20s was convicted Thursday of the murder, rape and s.o.d.o.m. y of his six-year-old cousin.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
6:15 am

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The idiot is you XTR....coming in here making snide little comments but incapable of answering difficult questions that challenge your bullshyte!

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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Robaman...Bobsagoodbugger er...is you....the person in question is more likely to be a mate of yours given he's a jew.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
6:22 am

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Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu used the *** term 'Judenrein' in a recent meeting with the German foreign minister to condemn the Palestinian demand that West Bank settlements be removed, a confidant of the premier has said.

"Judea and Samaria cannot be Judenrein," the confidant quoted the prime minister as telling Frank-Walter Steinmeier earlier this week.

Asked how Germany's top diplomat responded to hearing the term used by the *** s to refer to areas "cleansed of Jews", the confidant said, "What could he do? He basically just nodded."
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According to the confidant, Netanyahu had encouraged cabinet colleagues to deploy the term in their defense of the settlements and of Israel's insistence that Palestinians recognize it as a Jewish state.

Israel is facing unprecedented U.S. pressure to dismantle settlements to make way for a Palestinian state in the West Bank, an area also known to Jews as Judea and Samaria.

Briefing foreign reporters last week, Deputy Prime Minister Dan Meridor urged them to ask whether "Palestinians would accept that Jews will live among them, or whether it is going to be totally not allowed".

"'Judenrein' is the term that was once used in other countries," Meridor said, in remarks echoed the next day by another Likud minister who briefed journalists and diplomats.

But some Israeli officials, including former ambassador to Washington Zalman Shoval, have expressed misgivings about using the term.

"I don't like to transfer the trappings of *** s to others, even if they are our enemies," Shoval said.

What was being branded as the Palestinians' bigotry, he said, could also be prudence about steps that might pre-judge disputes such as those over Palestinian refugees from Israel.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
6:38 am

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A unilateral attack by Israel against Iran to thwart the Islamic republic's nuclear ambitions would be an "absolute catastrophe", French President Nicolas Sarkozy was quoted by AFP as saying on Thursday.

Sarkozy was speaking after a Group of Eight summit participated by other leaders in Italy, at which they agreed on the need to pursue a negotiated deal with Teheran in order to halt its nuclear program.

"Israel should know that it is not alone and look at all this calm. If I have fought so hard in the name of France to get people talking about Iran it's also a message to the Israelis that they are not alone," he said.

And we all know Netanyahu is far from calm....he's nuts!

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
6:41 am

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Four Jewish Defense League members were arrested on Wednesday, according to Agence France Presse, in connection to last week's attack on a Paris bookstore. Judicial officials were quoted in the report as saying that the shop is run by pro-Palestinian activists, and has fallen victim to several such attacks.
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Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the Jewish Defense Leauge [archive].
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The JDL members, aged 16 to 26, allegedly entered the shop last Friday afternoon wearing masks, and proceeded to trash the store. According to the report, the four were armed with sticks and bottles of oil, and damaged computers, books, and the cash register.

AFP reported that following the incident, anti-racism group, MRAP called for a ban on the JDL.

The JDL, founded in 1968 by extremist Rabbi Meir Kahane, holds the stated goal of "protecting Jews from antisemitism by whatever means necessary."

Israeli terrorism alive and well!

By: its_muzz_again
10/07/2009
6:56 am

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inbound :

"Shalit is a soldier and defined as an enemy by Hamas....there is no requirement for Hamas to keep him alive...as a uniformed clearly identifiable enemy combatant they had and have every right to shoot him."

An example of the intellectual dwarfism of inbound. After spouting about UN resolutions chiding Israel - like, the UN is a great power, yeh right - he ignores totally the Geneva Convention on War. Ever heard of that half-wit? The one where UNIFORMED prisoners must be treated fairly, fed and clothed, not ridiculed and AT ALL TIMES be treated in a respectful manner.

inbound, it's obvious you are nothing other than a fool. Banging on about things of which you have no knowledge. Just a hatred of anything Israeli. For what reason? Did the circumcision fail and they kept the tip instead?

Your village is missing its idiot. Go home.

By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
10/07/2009
6:58 am

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Yep, if you in any way, shape, or form, do anything that could be construed as being pro Palestinian, you are automatically, anti-semitic. What a pack of hypocritical *** holes.

By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
10/07/2009
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Hi mar, have a greast day too, ignor the *** ers. Hey if jews want to live in Palestine, make them sign a loyalty to Palestine oath.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
7:24 am

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Muzz....you fail to get what I was saying....they could have easily have shot him instead of taking him prisoner you egg. Hamas are not signatories of the Geneva Convention....Israel is.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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The one where UNIFORMED prisoners must be treated fairly, fed and clothed, not ridiculed and AT ALL TIMES be treated in a respectful manner......Muzz...Israel has never treated any of its prisoners in a respectful manner. Thousands are in jail without charge and have been there for years. Israel has a special facility where it is the norm to force sticks into rectums and pen refills into genitals.....Go talk to Israel about the Geneva Convention...THEY ARE SIGNATORIES....you were clearly blessed with two brains....one lost and the other is out trying to find it!

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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There exists exemptions to the Third Convention for "High Contracting Parties" to this convention. In the case of a conflict between a signatory and a non-signatory the signatory shall remain bound until such time as the non-signatory no longer acts under the strictures of the convention.

(Art 2) "...Although one of the Powers in conflict may not be a party to the present Convention, the Powers who are parties thereto shall remain bound by it in their mutual relations. They shall furthermore be bound by the Convention in relation to the said Power, if the latter accepts and applies the provisions thereof."


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* (Art 3): "The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for." (this is not restricted to prisoners of war)
* (Art 13): "Prisoners of war must at all times be humanely treated."
* (Art 13): "...Prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity."
* (Art 17): "No physical or mental tortureTorture is the infliction of severe physical or psychological pain as a means of cruelty, intimidation, punishment, for the extraction of a confession or information or simply for the entertainment of the perpetrator. Signatories of the Third Geneva Conve, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind."
* (Art 25): "Prisoners of war shall be quartered under conditions as favourable as those for the forces of the Detaining Power who are billeted in the same area."
* (Art 27): "Clothing, underwear and footwear shall be supplied to prisoners of war"
* (Art 39): "Prisoners of war, with the exception of officers, must saluteA salute is a gesture or other action used to indicate respect. Salutes are primarily associated with m ...

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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* (Art 39): "Prisoners of war, with the exception of officers, must saluteA salute is a gesture or other action used to indicate respect. Salutes are primarily associated with military forces, but other organizations and even general populations use salutes. Civilian Salutes While such gestures as tipping one's hat as one passe and show to all officers of the Detaining Power the external marks of respect provided for by the regulations applying in their own forces."
* (Art 42): "The use of weapons against prisoners of war, especially against those who are escaping or attempting to escape, shall constitute an extreme measure, which shall always be preceded by warnings appropriate to the circumstances."
* (Art 69): "Immediately upon prisoners of war falling into its power, the Detaining Power shall inform them and the Powers on which they depend, through the Protecting Power , of the measures taken to carry out the provisions of the present Section. They shall likewise inform the parties concerned of any subsequent modifications of such measures."
* (Art 88): "Officers, non-commissioned officers and men who are prisoners of war undergoing a disciplinary or judicial punishment, shall not be subjected to more severe treatment than that applied in respect of the same punishment to members of the armed forces of the Detaining Power of equivalent rank."
* (Art 89): Provides for fines, discontinuance of privileges above those required by the Convention, fatigue duties up to two hours per day and confinement. "In no case shall disciplinary punishments be inhuman, brutal or dangerous to the health of prisoners of war."

Show me where Israel ever adheres to said convention.

By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
8:09 am

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inbound; when you first started your pro terrorist/commie, jew hating, charade you declared your intentions by calling it a 'Hamas'.... Two State solution and not a Palestinian...Two State Solution. Shows what a sneaky creep you are in hiding behind the news items that only speak out against Israel. There is no balance to your tirades just commie supported misinformation and emotional bull.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
8:14 am

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The most disturbing question requiring an answer from XTR is this. If we are not to feel disgust or revulsion for Israeli's, who according to the last poll fully support their government,and which it elected and its subsequent and previous actions,are we then to feel happy and joyous at the IDF's abilities of the wanton destruction of Gaza, its heinous treatment of Palestinians such as shooting submissive restrained palestinians in the feet at point blank range with rubber bullets? Are we to praise them and support them for shooting Palestinians who walk with white flags of surrender? Are we to praise and support them for beating seventy year old women with pick axe handles? Are we to praise and support them for shooting women and children at point blank range, killing whole families in front of the Palestinian male head of the household? Smashing teenagers hands with rifle butts who throw stones or even hacking their arms off with machetes? Do we run out on the streets shouting glory to God because they blockade Gaza thus starving innocent civilians of water, electricity, food and medical supplies and deny them building materials so they can get shelter? Does XTR expect us to feel nothing regarding the consensus of Israeli's who condone such acts as the above? Tell us XTR! PLEASE EXPLAIN YOURSELF.How are we supposed to feel according to your intellectually superior thinking?

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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XTR...If you fail to answer the above question then where is your balance....you shoot your lips off about jrew haters and commies yet you do that purely on your own misguided perceptions. We..JJ,Paerina and myself all support a peaceful resolution. Where has Israel ever been peaceful...it cosistently has sabotaged and undermined any peace process in the past and this is the first time ever the PTB's have held Israel to the process and now more than ever it is clear...goddamn clear Israel is the obstacle to peace....yet we are not allowed to validly criticize its actions without pea brains like you accusing us of anti semitism and communist leanings....what a restricted brain pan you have!

By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
10/07/2009
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We need to pursue an answer to this question from xtr, and all the anti palestinian detractors. Make them lay it on the line instead of their pitiful personal attacks and abuse.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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There is no balance to your tirades just commie supported misinformation and emotional bull.......If this statement of yours is true then XTR what you are saying is Haaretz and Jerusalem Post are communist misinformation sites......is that correct? Have I got your interpretation correct? That is the large proportion of the sources I use. Is the U.S. State Department Press Releases communist , misinformed,emotional bull is it? Have I got you right?

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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Pitiful personal attacks and abuse is all the clowns have left JJ!

By: xtr387645@xtra.co.nz
10/07/2009
8:48 am

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I say chaps if you are going to hurl abusive ravings at an xtr can you please be aware that there are thousands of us who use this prefix.Any chance of indicating which xtr you are targeting.Thank you.

By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
10/07/2009
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Sure will xtr387, sorry bout that, you are right and there is a marked distinction between the opinions of some of them.

By: inbound39
10/07/2009
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If all of you xtr's are going to run around with similar addies then the simple answer is to define yourself more clearly. You should also be able to determine which one is being addressed by the content of the post. I won't be bothering to count the numbers or intensively look if you guys want to create confusion.
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