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| So what does that tell you 365...It's been longer than sixty years but sixty years is still valid and still they ignore their obligations under International law don't they? |
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By: inbound39
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Shortly before Oren was summoned by Feltman on Monday, Israeli Ambassador to Sweden Benny Dagan was summoned to that country's foreign ministry for a similar rebuke. Swedish officials told Dagan that they did not understand the timing of the evictions, nor do they accept the legal arguments behind the move. Sweden currently holds the European Union's rotating presidency.
Dagan counterattacked, saying that Israel was "extremely frustrated with Sweden's conduct" as president of the EU. Israel, he said, has taken steps to make life easier for West Bank Palestinians, while the Palestinians have merely entrenched themselves in their hard-line positions, and the EU has done nothing to help.
The Swedes rejected these claims, noting there is "no difference" between Sweden's positions on the peace process and Washington's.
Foreign Ministry Director General Rafi Barak responded by summoning the Swedish ambassador for talks, during which he told her that Jerusalem considers Stockholm's criticisms of Israel, since assuming the EU presidency, to be excessive. |
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By: inbound39
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Editorial / Israel must allow evicted Arab families to return home
By Haaretz Editorial
Tags: East Jerusalem, Sheikh Jarrah
The eviction of two Palestinian families from their homes in the East Jerusalem neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah, in order to replace them with Jewish families, predictably sparked harsh condemnations. U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton urged the government to refrain from such actions, which she described as "provocative."
Sweden, which holds the European Union's rotating presidency, asserted that the evictions were illegal, while UN Special Coordinator for the Middle East Peace Process Robert Serry said they were violations of both the Geneva Conventions and Israel's obligations under the road map peace plan.
The sight of the evicted Palestinian families, who had lived in these houses for decades, paints Israel in the world's eyes as a country that maintains a cruel regime of occupation, oppresses the weak and strives to create political facts in the disputed city under the guise of the "rule of law."
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But for all its importance, this international criticism is not what makes the eviction of these families completely unacceptable. A democratic state that strives for peace and justice simply has no right to uproot families who became refugees in 1948. They left homes in West Jerusalem behind them, and were subsequently granted modest accommodations by the Jordanian government. The claim that the houses in Sheikh Jarrah were purchased by Jews in the early 1900s is a double-edged sword that opens a political and legal Pandora's box. |
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By: inbound39
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No thinking person will be persuaded that Jews have a sweeping right to return to their homes in East Jerusalem as long as Israeli law not only bars Palestinians from returning to their homes in West Jerusalem, but even evicts them from the houses where they have lived for the last 60 years. The Israel Lands Administration's regulations do not even allow Palestinian residents of East Jerusalem to buy land and houses in many parts of the city.
The least that can be expected of a state that legalized the expropriation of thousands of dunams in East Jerusalem to build 50,000 apartments for its citizens is to once and for all deprive extremists of the right to turn Jerusalem into an obstacle to peace and a stumbling block to reconciliation between the two peoples that inhabit this city.
The government must immediately return the Palestinian residents to their homes in Sheikh Jarrah and cancel the eviction orders that have been issued against additional houses. And the neighborhood's fate must be determined via diplomatic negotiations. |
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By: elalamein@xtra.co.nz
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JJ says "No worries, Ive got a car and a van and a effin great 4wd all paid for by you losers lol. My dole payments, after supplements, extras, mortgage relief, extra allowances, my rented out sleepout and all the cashys I do, not counting capital gains on my do-ups, I probably make 3 to 5 times what you do mutt. hahahahahaha"
jj adds".... of course that was tongue in cheek"
Unbelieveable cause your tongue missed the cheek and got the arsthole instead!!! hahahahah |
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By: elalamein@xtra.co.nz
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| no worries no thinking where hamas terrorists are concerned you do it all |
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By: inbound39
5/08/2009
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| No thinking where Israeli terrorism is concerned...All terrorist activity is bad...one is not better than another. Israel is the pot calling the kettle black! |
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By: inbound39
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It is hard to believe Israel denies they stole Palestine from Palestinians. Ben Gurion said that they did!! Read on...
1) If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the *** s, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?
2) We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population.
3) We must expel the Arabs and take their places.
4) We must do everything to insure they never do return. The old will die and the young will forget.
5) We have to set up a dynamic state bent upon expansion.
6) We are not obliged to state the limits of our State. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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4) We must do everything to insure they never do return. The old will die and the young will forget.
got that wrong didnt they, the young didnt forget |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| Hard to forget though isnt it when Israel kills them and pushes them off their land leaving them less and less. |
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By: inbound39
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| 2) We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation, and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab population. |
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By: inbound39
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| The woodworms think the sun shines out of Israels ass and they ignore what Israel does do. |
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| jj; Today 'they' probably hope they don't forget but remember the misery that befalls them when they adopt a violent means to something that should be settled at the negotiation table. But when have any of your rocket firing terrorist mates considered that as an option. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| The woodworms still believe all the BS and propaganda we've been fed, though this has changed and the truth is coming out, they havent and wont. Thank *** they are becoming a miniority and their screeching voices will be ignored. |
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| They tried negotiating, Israel breaks its promises as youve been told a 1000 times, 365. |
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| jj; and you've been told 1000 times that if you break a ceasefire[like your friends Hamas does in its impatience] all promises become null and void. |
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By: elalamein@xtra.co.nz
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"....the sun shines out of Israels ass and they ignore what Israel does do."
Does it I thought the sun shone from the skies. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| pretty close el, its that big yellow thing, dont stare at it too long though. 365, Israel has broken over 70% of all ceasefires, as youve been told a 1000 times. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
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jj; "The woodworms still believe all the BS and propaganda we've been fed" .......
You certainly do and have been because you are an idiot. What do you think inbound has been posting for 15,000 postings. Some of us have preferred to take a more realistic approach to matters. |
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jj; laying the foundations to new homes isn't really violating a ceasefire but Hamas firing rockets does. I think you have your reasons why Israel is supposed to have broken so many somewhat mixed up like your tiny brain. Even the Palestinian Authority have been disgusted with Hamas breaking ceasefires.
Hamas, like you and inbound, are 'here today gone tomorrow' and some other militant terrorist group will rise up and find favour with you both. |
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By: elalamein@xtra.co.nz
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"pretty close el, its that big yellow thing, dont stare at it too long though"
Is it big and yellow I thought it was a weenie as you limped from the hamas hole! |
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By: darleydale@xtra.co.nz
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| Sometimes on this thread it can be difficult to figure out who is taking the piss out of who.However the penny has dropped. xtra365 really is unable to distinguish between Jew and Zionist.I suspect that he is not alone. |
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By: srvjau
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That sounds about right darley.
I feel no sympathy for either side on a political sclae, the innocents caught up in the posturing and crossfire, those who want peace on both sides and are shoved aside are who I feel for. The zionists need to listen to the people, if such a thing is possible and so do the Palestinian leaders. |
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By: inbound39
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The Palestinian media see such incidents as proof that Fatah remains the same Fatah. As one journalist put it, "this is an organization that can never change: an organization with a past, but without a future."
While that may yet prove true, the very fact that the convention is being held represents a victory of sorts: Fatah refused to bow to the dictates of Hamas, which sought to force it to cancel the event by refusing to allow delegates from Gaza to attend.
Nevertheless, the real test will come tomorrow - namely, whether the delegates succeed in changing the composition of Fatah's executive organs, whose leaders are widely loathed.
Tuesday, the crowd seemed to include an awful lot of the same old faces. Hundreds of additional delegates were added at the last moment, apparently in an effort to bolster the old-timers' camp. Moreover, some of the "young guard" - whose members are also all over 40 - have been making under-the-table deals with some of the old-timers, making it even harder to read the map. Even Palestinian analysts and longtime Fatah officials are reluctant to make any predictions. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com
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| Agreed srv, though I think its too late for Abbas and his cohorts, they are on the out, they dithered and pandered to Israel too long, hence, Hamas being the voters choice. As the peace process moves forward and the Palestinian people see progess, Hamas will have step up to the mark and lessen their militantcy, which there are signs of already, or they will be voted out of power. The key to it all of course, is what Israel does and whether America will tighten the screws on Israel enough to force Israel to accept and implement the 2 state solution. So far it looks like the US will, but Israel has to stop settlement activity completely. By continueing settlement building, Israel shows the world it is not committed to peace. |
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