By: noozilander
15/04/2008
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| Gidday Dan. Yes, we pledge cheap plentiful power for everyone and expect to lose 95 percentage points as a result. |
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By: danforbes@xtra.co.nz
15/04/2008
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That is okay you've got the vital 5% to get into power, old Winnie knows all about that vital 5%.
Just saw on the news how China is building two new coal fired power plants a week to add more to all that pollution. I wonder if they would get as much condemnation if they built two nuclear power plants a week. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
15/04/2008
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| danforbes; I doubt whether china would be condemned for building two nuclear power plants per week for two reasons. 1; no planet choking pollution. 2; the world and technology have moved on from Chernobyl and the country would only be joining a whole host of other countries that have built multi plants. And china would not have to build so many nuclear plants as opposed to the lunacy they're carrying out with coal generation |
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By: noozilander
15/04/2008
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In a large communist state like China two coal fired plant per week is probably better for all of us than one nuclear plant in a millennium.
I do hope you aren't drawing a comparison between N.Z. First and One Nation! We would never profess to putting New Zealand First. We are a party founded on honesty. We are in politics purely for power and personal gain, the same as anyone, except we are openly corrupt. |
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By: rsmith111333
15/04/2008
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Ah ..
It has just started to rain.
How many of the top brass were thinking of a new energy solution... I wonder what? |
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By: nicolte
15/04/2008
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| nooz, you have just swung my vote to One Nation, I would be most pleased to vote for a party that is openly corrupt instead of appearing legitimate from the outside but being corrupt out of public eye...good on ya :-) Open corruption is hard to come by these days, I guess it just comes down to peoples code of ethics and morals. I thought of a great slogan that will help win others over "ONE NATION, where corruption isn't lost in tranlation", whatya think? or does it need a bit of work hahaha |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
16/04/2008
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| rsmith; one day when it does rain it's going to bring down all that crap residue from the hundreds of chinese coal fired power stations. It's been reported recently that some of the underground, slow burning, fires in the huge coal fields in northern China, have been doing so so a thousand years and the pollution from these alone is equal to all the exhaust emissions of cars in the U.S. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
16/04/2008
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| The Minister of Energy will not guarantee that we will not have power cuts this year. He says he cannot guarantee the weather. We already know that winds speeds are generally down and power generation down with it and now the lakes are drying up. And; IF the tidal power generation eperiment works it could be btween 10 - 15 years before full production can take place. 10-15yrs ? What abot NOW and the next 10-15yrs. Helengrad has banned coal and gas fired stations so we're running out of options I think. |
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By: noozilander
16/04/2008
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| She bans coal, but doesn't ban the sale of it. Maybe N.Z. coal burns cleaner, in the heavily polluted atmosphere of China? Or maybe, it's just another double standard. Seems like we live in a glasshouse and our leader has a fetish for stone-throwing. |
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By: noozilander
16/04/2008
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| Nicolte, that slogan will do nicely and doesn't need any work. Another of our policies is to do and spend as little as possible, before and after being elected. Thank you for your vote. Please send financial donations to, www.imgonnahaveahugebagof cashsoon.co.bahamas |
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By: smuts666
17/04/2008
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We will be nuclear within 20 years. the best power generation and transmission system in the world was destroyed in 1987 when the NZED was split up!
Now the RMA halts all future generation plans, so there is only one option left.
Go Nuclear ASAP. |
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By: rsmith111333
17/04/2008
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| Better get the wind power underway I guess... |
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By: mmalhorian
17/04/2008
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| Hey dont despair, you got us Kiwis over here, who could plug that cable into one of Aussies coal fuelled power station's, cough, splutter, choke. The Australian government are drilling a big hole in the ground and sending the carbon gases down that big hole to minimise the big carbon toe-jam I mean footprint, wonder what it'll smell like wen she back fires?? |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
18/04/2008
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| READ THE ARTICLE IN THE NZ HERALD, THURSDAY APRIL 17th. PAGE A-20. I rest my case. |
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By: jabba1@xtra.co.nz
18/04/2008
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| I hope so, all the doom and gloom and misinformation spread by intelectuals years ago have been proven to be false rubbish ,they have started again this time promoting global warming, another load of rubbish |
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By: nicolte
18/04/2008
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| Know that for a fact do you jabba? |
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By: danforbes@xtra.co.nz
18/04/2008
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| Pictures taken of various spots twenty years ago then revisited shows that global warming is definitely happening. Seems the jury is out on cause as this does happen in cycles naturally. |
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By: rsmith111333
19/04/2008
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nuclear power .... Its going to come and there is nothing we can do about it. Oh maybe not - there may not be any industry left in NZ.(ask Fisher & Paykels)
OK wind power... |
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By: flag_em
24/04/2008
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If Nuclear power stations are so intrinsically safe, then I would have to ask why it is that the Americans themselves live in fear of them? Fact: A new nuclear facility on Long Island was built at a cost of millions of dollars. However it was never brought on-line due to fears that in the event of a catastrophe, it would be impossible to evacuate the residents of Long Island. It remains dormant and unused!
Meanwhile, Roosevelt Island, New York will soon be the home of a new power generation plant utilising under-water turbines which will be powered by the tidal flow within the river. |
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By: danforbes@xtra.co.nz
24/04/2008
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| Fear can be irrational in nature, in fact most times it is. |
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By: kilmaun@xtra.co.nz
24/04/2008
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| I think it is a sure thing, it is just a matter of time. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
24/04/2008
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| kilmaun; Agreed. You just cannot use technology from 20yrs ago to judge what it is today; the world and technology have both moved on in great leaps. A recent comment referred to Long Island, New York. This facility was being built amidst the fears raised over Chernobyl and Three Mile Island. This sort of opinion is no different than some folk way back saying no to cars because Ford Model T's were running over people and killing them. Road kill and exhaust fumes would have been the nuke wastes of the early 1900's but the future needed cars. |
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By: danforbes@xtra.co.nz
24/04/2008
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Good point xtr... everyone got over the irrational fear of cars. It is always the same with something new, there is a fear of the unknown. It's a primeval inbuilt mechanism designed to protect us from unknown dangers.
Build one nuclear plant , nothing happens the fear will subside. |
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By: colevnz
30/04/2008
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| yes the future needed cars but its taken almost a hundred years of exhuast fumes polluting the atmosphere to get to a point where something like hybrids are now coming onto the market. im not for nuclear power i think the potential risks outweigh the benifits especially when there are alternatives and plus with nz sitting on a fault line could it be assured that a power plant would remain safe in the event of an earthquake. wind farms and solar energy im all for |
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By: grahamingiz@xtra.co.nz
30/04/2008
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| sooner the better surley it will mean cheaper power for all the so called poor who sit at home all day complaining |
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