By: kiwi_geofreak 18/09/2009 9:15 pm Yahoo! Profile: kiwi_geofreak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Hi all
http://tvnz.co.nz/world-news/ahmadinejad-calls-hol ocaust-lie-2998797
Typical hatemongering fool. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com 18/09/2009 10:17 pm Yahoo! Profile: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Another miss-interpretation by the west in its efforts to demonise Ahmadinejad and Iran
"Mr. Ahmadinejad did not say what the US Subcommittee on Intelligence Policy reported that he said: "They have invented a myth that Jews were massacred and place this above God, religions and the prophets." He actually said, "In the name of the Holocaust they have created a myth and regard it to be worthier than God, religion and the prophets." This language targets the myth of the Holocaust, not the Holocaust itself - i.e., "myth" as "mystique", or what has been done with the Holocaust. Other writers, including important Jewish theologians, have criticized the "cult" or "ghost" of the Holocaust without denying that it happened. In any case, Mr. Ahmadinejad's main message has been that, if the Holocaust happened as Europe says it did, then Europe, and not the Muslim world, is responsible for it."
http://www.counterpunch.org/tilley08282006.html |
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By: astronoddy 18/09/2009 10:19 pm Yahoo! Profile: astronoddy Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Whoa jj. Not sure if there's any place on these boards for a voice of reason :o) |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com 18/09/2009 10:31 pm Yahoo! Profile: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| The truth is, the west knows very little about Ahmadinejad or Iran. All we see from there are the anti American protests on the news and Ahmadinejads fiery but miss-quoted speeches |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com 18/09/2009 10:33 pm Yahoo! Profile: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Oh, and the recent protests over the elections there that the west had been saying for months before the elections that Ahmadinejad would win and when he won they called it a fraud. |
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By: alamein001 18/09/2009 11:08 pm Yahoo! Profile: alamein001 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| One is the muppets, one is the puppets and he other is the strings manipulator |
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By: ace_vendetta56 19/09/2009 5:42 am Yahoo! Profile: ace_vendetta56 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I love it when anyone starts a post with..."The truth is..."
No doubt the Iranian people's protests at the rigged elections were misquoted too by the west. No doubt photoshopped imagery.
What a misunderstood humble muslim Ahmad is.
Gosh yes, and he is so moderate in his rhetoric too. |
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By: bobsagoodbugger@xtra.co.nz 19/09/2009 6:25 am Yahoo! Profile: bobsagoodbugger@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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JJ. MINDBOUND, PUKERINA
Support this absolute madman who has just stated that 7 million deaths of one race. He also has stated in the speech that Israel has no future!! . I ask how could anyone support such an evil man.Yet these deluded whackos who live in New Zealand ,and believe they have the answers for the middle east support leaders like this man. Who could be described as the new Hitler. Your are truly are poor pathetic, insane wee lot. |
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By: ace_vendetta56 19/09/2009 7:43 am Yahoo! Profile: ace_vendetta56 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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ros you should subscribe to jj's newsletter
"I have anything american and jewish"
You both seem to share the one brain cell.
"..Mainstream meadia will project desert and missile..." - I wont correct the dumb spelling - nobody projects iran as desert, you must watch completely different media to anyone else.
Your anti jewish sentiment is effecting the action of that one brain cell. |
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By: ace_vendetta56 19/09/2009 7:53 am Yahoo! Profile: ace_vendetta56 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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".The truth is, the west knows very little about Ahmadinejad or Iran..."
One of your more stupid and illogically argued postings.
I will not even begin to correct you here as it would take (a) too long and (b) too advanced political strategy that it would go over your head.
And besides, your aggressive hate of america and anything jewish would prevent you reading without bias anyhow.
Enjoy your lack of fact and have fun (just as you immersed yourself in the 911 fiction? |
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By: madaxeoo1 19/09/2009 7:59 am Yahoo! Profile: madaxeoo1 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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you idiots cant even fix home....or find solutions...
yet your on here bleating about whats happening over there because
your american buddys enlightened you on t.v right or wrong...
your political numbnuts....with fictional facts...
drumed up by a INSANE media thats feeding you...
and your taking it all in like SHEEP....
not even good for FOOD for thought....
just egotistical Bleating.... |
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By: ace_vendetta56 19/09/2009 8:09 am Yahoo! Profile: ace_vendetta56 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Here is what was interesting.
Only yesterday the Iranians staged their standard government arranged and scripted anti Israel day march.
Ahmad's speech included statements such as the holocaust claims are unacceptable and incredible claims and Israel will not last long...
But more interesting the thousands of Iranian people who hit the streets demanding democracy and interrupting the governments orchestrated march.
Oh, I forgot, that was probably foreign media misquoting him and faking the imagery of the people.
I'd best wait for the jj newsletter for the real 'truth'. |
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By: porkbonetame 19/09/2009 8:23 am Yahoo! Profile: porkbonetame Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Iran is a festering rat hole, there should be a aerial rat poison drop ,daily,until all the rats are dead. |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com 19/09/2009 8:40 am Yahoo! Profile: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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"But more interesting the thousands of Iranian people who hit the streets demanding democracy and interrupting the governments orchestrated march."
In today's world, with such a high degree of communication between its various parts, upholding an Islamic superstructure in such a vast region is impossible. It is not possible to stop the emergence of secularism in the Middle East. In my opinion, secularism is not only realisable, but also after the experiences of Iran, Afghanistan and Algeria, a need and demand of the people of the region. The problem is still fundamentally the Palestinian question. Just as this confrontation strengthens the reactionary religious factions in Israel itself and gives them much more power- disproportionate to their actual minor weight in people's culture and beliefs, it also adds to the lifespan of political Islam and Islamic identity in the opposing camp. The sooner an independent Palestinian state is formed, the quicker Islam and Islamism will be eradicated in the region.
Mansoor Hekmat |
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By: yourallfucwits 19/09/2009 8:46 am Yahoo! Profile: yourallfucwits Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| He also said the latest election was fair |
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By: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com 19/09/2009 9:01 am Yahoo! Profile: jamisonjohn@rocketmail.com Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Up until the elections, western analyists had been saying the only place Ahmadinejad might loose was in Tehran and that all polls said he would win the election. When the results showed he did win, the west called it a fraud. Im my opinion the protests were more a backlash against Islamic rule by a large proportion of the population who want secularism. |
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By: jaystalone 19/09/2009 9:16 am Yahoo! Profile: jaystalone Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Seems silly to continually court favor with these creeps. Once they have positioned them selves well enough with in western culture they will start there war. Western nations are foolish to even try to talk reason with them. |
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By: yourallfucwits 19/09/2009 9:20 am Yahoo! Profile: yourallfucwits Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| But it was the Iranian people that were protesting and being brutalised by government forces for speaking out about political coruption and really jamisonjohn is your head so far up your rear end that you belive the west did it all ? |
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By: xavarian1 19/09/2009 9:59 am Yahoo! Profile: xavarian1 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I don't know why the West reacts to this anti-Semite at all---he is only winding them up, he knows exactly what to say and how to say it. No one can deny that the Holocaust happened, it is very well documented, so we are left with the distinct feeling that this guy is ready to have a go at the Israeli's (and everyone else) at various intervals. Eventually, someone may react a bit more than he calculates.... |
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By: kiwi_geofreak 19/09/2009 10:14 am Yahoo! Profile: kiwi_geofreak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Bollocks.
I asked the local Iranian community here in Christchurch at a vigil for Neda Soltan, the young lady who was gunned down in the streets and whose death was flashed around the world. Representatives said it was heavily rigged, and that boxes had been stuffed, amongst other things. |
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By: n.may@xtra.co.nz 19/09/2009 11:00 am Yahoo! Profile: n.may@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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I like Ahmadinejad... He is politcally motivated and subjects people to stop and think things through. If he is incorrect you will have a go at him and if correct then you definitely 'inquired' deeply into his 'Fu...cked up comments'.
Ahmadinejad's land folks (Iran) holds one of the rarest,ancient and beautiful synagogue in the world. He like his people pride on historical marvel and jews of Iran.
Palestine has been subjected to a lot of in human things in the past and is still is. It is in the Arab vision to heal and protect this state.
Media has brainwashed your biased minds on the issues that really is affecting the Middle Eastern countries. The mindless acts on the Palestine, Iraq and... Children, woman maimed by the senseless acts of others. We have not learnt from the acts of wars in history. This is the 21 st century and we are still at war.
Ahmadinejad has a big mouth...of course who hasn't up the top.There are two men politicians I like up the top Ahmadinejad and Putin. They have the guts to say and do... |
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By: n.may@xtra.co.nz 19/09/2009 11:05 am Yahoo! Profile: n.may@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I would put Paula Bennett[woman] alongside these two...There are 'no holds barred' here. |
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By: kiwi_geofreak 19/09/2009 11:12 am Yahoo! Profile: kiwi_geofreak Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Have you thought about how you might ensure Israel's borders are secure from HAMAS and Hizbollah incursions? |
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By: n.may@xtra.co.nz 19/09/2009 11:14 am Yahoo! Profile: n.may@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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Conclusively: Stop your moaning and whining, 'CLEAN it UP!
1.Ahmadinejad has no intention of using 'War of Mass Destruction" theory. His mouth will fire. Typical trait of 'short people' syndrome.
2. Putin been there, cleaned it up and watching
3. Paula Bennett is cleaning it up. |
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