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By: raynbowwitch
12/11/2008
1:02 pm

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13-year-old Iraqi suicide bomber kills four guards

A 13-year-old girl blew herself up at a checkpoint in central Iraq on Monday, killing four Sunni guards and wounding at least 15 civilians, a military and a medical official said.

13yo girl chooses 'right to die'

A 13-year-old British girl who has undergone almost a dozen operations in her young life has refused a heart transplant in a decision that may ultimately lead to her death

These headlines were taken from NewsBreak and Australian news site.

Two young girls in different worlds.

Sad.

Couragous.

Tragic.

By: bill.griffin@ymail.com
12/11/2008
1:05 pm

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Has been refused a heart transplant or has refused to have one personally?

By: raynbowwitch
12/11/2008
1:09 pm

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Apparently she has said enough is enough

"I've been in hospital too much - I've had too much trauma," Hannah Jones told Sky News today. "I don't want this, and it's my choice not to have it."

Sad couragous end to a pain filled battling life

By: tokoroajaq
12/11/2008
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The suicide bomber - I would add the word

Brainwashed

By: bill.griffin@ymail.com
12/11/2008
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Indeed, life is precious, you have to appreciate every day. I know I do these days.

By: gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
5:07 pm

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Brave, brave girl in the UK

Bloody nutter in Iraq

By: ropativ
12/11/2008
5:17 pm

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gaba.oudemans@xtra.co.nz

IMHO, Victim of bloody nutters in Iraq...she's too young to know i suppose....

By: raynbowwitch
12/11/2008
5:19 pm

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Nutter in Iraq?
I wonder.
Misguided from our point of view.
Wrong to kill from many points of view.

But i don't think nutter. In a way she had the courage of her convictions. She, in her own (admittedly warped) way, has the same courage as the young girl in Britian. She took control of her own life.
Don't agree with the outcome or anything else to do with suicide bombers.
But what amount of courage, or believe, or desperation, would it take for someone to strap on high explosives and then push the detentator her self?

By: ropativ
12/11/2008
6:09 pm

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raynbowwitch

13 year old in Iraq...in a twisted sort of thinking i would agree with you about Courage....my instinct (if it matters) says she was coerced and not mature enough to know and comprehend the world of politics to commit such a murderous attack.......way too young to comprehend, methinks....

By: machint@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
6:20 pm

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A tragedy for both.

By: ropativ
12/11/2008
6:25 pm

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...the age is that of a child in Form 3 in our world....! ...boggles the mind....!

By: chaneyslops
12/11/2008
6:26 pm

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I suppose people should also be aware that you cant believe everything you read in the paper or hear on the news.you heard this information probably fourth hand, also, you heard it from a US official, and after they destroyed the world trade centre to start a war in iraq, re opened guantanamo bay where they held innocent civilians captive for 3- 4 days against their will without so much as a phone call to their loved ones, all the while being exposed to over 70 years worth of asbestos, and massive chemical exposure causing everything from illness to death, can you honestly take their word for ANYTHING anymore?and as for that girl choosing to die, perhaps unlike the so called 13 year old bomber, she doesnt exactly have a hard life all in all, suicide in a hospital?as far as I heard euthanasia was illegal.

By: scottspears7
12/11/2008
6:34 pm

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That is a heart felt story about the uk girl I'm glad she won the battle not to have the transplant, how dare doctors and dump ass soical workers take this little girl to court for something that is still not going to give her any more quility for life that she already has. it may give her a few more months of being sick that would be something to live for.

By: scottspears7
12/11/2008
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I would say being 13 and having cancer since a very little girl was having a hard life, how dare you say that this poor sick child has had an easy life

By: ropativ
12/11/2008
7:26 pm

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chaneyslops

excuse my ignorance...but i can't understand the angle you're coming from.....? we're discussing age and courage here, and also the awareness level of these young children...i failed to connect your statement of the world trade center and quantanamo bay with the tragedies these two children went through...? don't bother to reply, i just wanted to point out that sometimes people are way off the mark (and depth) at times...

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
7:46 pm

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<<<she doesnt exactly have a hard life all in all,>>>

chaneyslops - I have been known to do my block on these forums, but I won't on this occasion, all I can say is that you ignorance and lack of compassion is astounding, go down to the Wellington Childrens Hospital or to Starship in Auckland and see some of the kids who have cancer, and then maybe you will realise what a complete fool you are!!!

By: seth.lestat
12/11/2008
8:14 pm

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she doesn't have a hard life at all. really.

"all I can say is that you ignorance and lack of compassion is astounding"
i love the way you located that typo right next to the word "ignorance"

quit attacking chaneyslops. you're obviously too naive to understand that worse events happens than this on a massive scale around the world. that pommy brat CHOSE to end her life because she can't handle the "trauma" she CHOSE. now think of all those people of the same age group in third world countries around the world that struggle to SURVIVE. at least they aren't throwing away the life that was given to them.

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
8:56 pm

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seth.lestat - okay, tied to be mellow, didn't work!!!

LISTEN YOU FAARKIN SEETHING CESS POOL OF COW DUNG STINKING OF A THOUSAND CAMELS A S S ES AND LISTEN GOOD, YOU HAVE NO FAARKIN IDEA WHAT IT IS LIKE TO BE A CANCER PATIENT AT THE AGE OF 4 AND HAVE MEDICATION THAT F A RKS YOUR SYSTEM, TO BE POKED AND PRODDED AND INJECTED AND THE MISERY THIS TREATMENT CAUSES.

How dare you try and take the moral high ground talking about the kids in third world countries trying to survive, I would venture to say that in some cases there quality of life is better than that of a leukemia patient you faarkin moron.

The transplant they want to give her may not work, and even worse it may cause relapse, when you have been in and out of hospital in all your short life the prospect of this would be terrifying for both the child and family. Do not talk to me of being naive, I am more than aware of world events and have travelled extensively, as for the typo, WHAT A FAAKIN RETARD YOU ARE!!!!

You would not dare to say what you have said to me face to face, if you did I PROMISE YOU that you would be able to visit Ward 18 at Wellington Childrens Hospital, or Starship because you would be spending a long time in one of the adjoining wards!!!

YOU PIECE OF S H I T!!!!!

By: seth.lestat
12/11/2008
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oh shut up. maybe we should just shoot the lot of the cancer patients and you as well. i'm just a realist. look at things in perspective, woman.

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
9:02 pm

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PLEASE SAY YOU WILL MEET ME!!!!!

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
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WHERE DO YOU LIVE???

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
9:03 pm

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COME ON MO FO!!!

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
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SHOW SOME GUTS YOU SPINELESS COWARD!!!

By: seth.lestat
12/11/2008
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palmerston north, so is this an impromptu date or what?

By: nicolte@xtra.co.nz
12/11/2008
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Where??? Address MO FO???
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