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By: kiwi_geofreak
18/10/2009
10:33 am

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Those of you who follow the European Union will know that the Lisbon Treaty for the latest round of EU expansion is in the latter stages of being ratified. You might also be aware that the Czech President is keen to hold off, despite EU insistence that there will be consequences attached if the Czech Republic does not sign on the dotted line.

What do you make of all of this?

I personally think that the EU might have been good in it's original intentions, but that now it is getting too big for it's own good and risks becoming a Federation of nations slave to a cause that is not necessarily in their best interests. Furthermore I think that the individuality of the European nations is being traded for questionable gain.

Maybe the Czechs NOT signing up would be not such a bad thing.

By: mhol@xtra.co.nz
18/10/2009
10:39 am

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The Irish wavered but soon realised where their "butter" was being bred from -subsidies.Czechs holding out for a better deal.

By: xavarian1
18/10/2009
11:38 am

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It's just a bit of wheeling and dealing, nothing sinister. The EU is the biggest and best alternative to the big bully USofA and eventually will become the leading power in the world, once the Russian Federation joins in a few years.

By: therockandrollerpress
18/10/2009
1:35 pm

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let's hope you're right xav

By: me_odie
18/10/2009
1:48 pm

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I thought I heard on National Radio that the Czechs intend to ratify or agree or what ever the term is...

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
18/10/2009
2:11 pm

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It's just a bit of wheeling and dealing, nothing sinister. The EU is the biggest and best alternative to the big bully USofA and eventually will become the leading power in the world, once the Russian Federation joins in a few years."

Complete rubbish! Nothing sinister, complete rubbish! xavarian makes out that he knows on a first hand basis those involved in this sell out. Go and research sites like

http://www.tpuc.org/forum/index.php?sid=3751871041 811cf049c69f5193ffc5b6 . You will see what a complete waste of time posters like xavarian are. Oh! Don't talk about what's happening over there or anywhere else before you have done at least some research!

xavarian is a complete fool and a disinformation merchant as well!

By: ali_marg_nz
18/10/2009
2:29 pm

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By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
18/10/2009
3:19 pm

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Exactly the kind of response you are famous for, half-witted and pathetic!

That is about the value of your contribution to humanity!

By: ali_marg_nz
18/10/2009
3:45 pm

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Im 57 plus gst,I have around and through many good times and bad,have seen alkinds of successes and losses,have helped and advised many people,including talking three people out of suicide,have been selfemployed for 38 years,on clubs,sports etc,Im NOT stupid,your problem is you don't like rejection,twist things round to suit your ego,if It doe'nt suit,abuse,I have witnesed very highly educated people,who have politly suggest you to come down a bit,you may be a great nice guy,thats not what we see,so to call me names,and you've never even meet me,well,pi.ss off.
the end,far as Im concerned

By: ali_marg_nz
18/10/2009
3:46 pm

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My speling is not good when im angary.

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
18/10/2009
4:27 pm

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Is ali_marg tokorajaq?

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
18/10/2009
5:28 pm

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Here it is in a nutshell!

The EU is Belief System. That's not debatable, and not subject to opinion, it is hard, cold FACT.

Now you are NOT going to ask people whether or not it is a Belief System, you want to ASSUME it is real, and ask them "Whether or not they approve of it".

I suggest, however, that you shouldn't be ASKING them anything. You should be TELLING them:

1. The EU is a Belief System and - as Human Beings - they can choose NOT to believe in it.

2. They SHOULD choose NOT to believe in it because it is a scam (another hard, cold FACT … again … not subject to opinion)

3. HOW they can ensure they don't believe in it, by making sure it has no 'oxygen' … which is Lawful Rebellion … and going on to explain "How to Lawfully Rebel"

That … I suggest … is what should be happening … not "ASKING them whether or not they approve of it" (which is what a Referendum would be)

Once you fully understand that and when that's the tack you are taking ... THEN WE WILL BE IN AGREEMENT ... but not before.

xavarian likes his little comfort zone but doesn't give a ()&% about anyone else's!

By: ali_marg_nz
18/10/2009
6:47 pm

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Im Ali,male,all the rest I've said,which I said as plainly as a 12 year old would understand,still,you go on,your a very sick person,easy,you've got a problem and need help,not only for your own sake,but the fellow people on the threads,get help,mate,lol

By: ali_marg_nz
18/10/2009
6:50 pm

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you just started your last line,
here it is in a nutshell!

WHO ARE YOU Talking to,you're anawereing yourself again,man you need help!

By: xavarian1
18/10/2009
7:37 pm

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<<The EU is Belief System>>
easypeasy....I will be quite frank. I think you are round the bend.

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
18/10/2009
8:48 pm

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You are very limited indeed. Arrogant, ignorant and limited.

Still..... You carry on!

By: easypeasysaintandgreavsie
25/10/2009
10:02 pm

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Now the Asean Union, all world currencies are merged into three and then three into one. One World Government, One World Army and One World Currency! Wonderful!

Or maybe not! Maybe that's what everyone needs. To have no control over there own lives.

Watch now for the people who begin to defend this idea!

They are either stupid or have a vested interest in it's development! If they have a vested interest in its development they are very limited indeed as this idea is going to take swallow them whole as well.

See here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/asean/news/article.cfm?o _id=600534&objectid=10359810

Or maybe not!
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