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By: w.lanz@xtra.co.nz
24/11/2009
12:10 am

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You can no longer deny the phenomenon. UFO's have been spotted all over the world for hundreds of years, some say thousands. Some of these crafts are most definitely not weather balloons as some govts will have you believe.

The debate now focuses on whether or not some are ETs.

Personally, I believe ET have been on, around and in the Earth for a long, long time. However, I cannot escape the possibility that all of the unexplained craft might be secret military projects. There has been talk of the govts faking an alien invasion to 'unite' the people of the world under one system, to collectively take on the ET threat.

Anyways, feel free to share your thoughts and any intriguing information or videos.

Here are some of the best IMO. Peace.

Battle of LA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQmbGMWlL7w
http://www.rense.com/ufo/battleofla.htm

Coyne Incident
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi0uhjd2HaQ
http://www.ufocasebook.com/coyne.html

Washington UFOs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTZ7O9cfpPQ
http://www.ufocasebook.com/washingtondc1952.html

Orb fleet (clip 3)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tt0chTRjCA

By: sunsurfsand@rocketmail.com
24/11/2009
4:41 am

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You bet,

We cant be the only life form in the universe so yep theres gotta be other forms of life out there and probably here that we dont know about.

Possibly never know to what degree in our life time though.

I do find this topic interesting. Wish the human life span was a lot longer.

By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
5:56 am

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Until you have read "U.F.O.'s : Operation Trojan Horse" by John Keel you should not make your mind up about Aliens.


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By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
6:15 am

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The dope lanz cannot help himself...

...instead of a debate on UFO possibility, he throws in the ol' chestnut of government conspiracy to invent UFO to 'unite under one world government' garbage...

the guy really is a complete moron...

...on UFO though there is every possibility of life outside the Earth - I've never bought the grainy images of craft or abductions, but I'm positive somewhere in all that nothingness there is some life form of who knows what type...

By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
6:28 am

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Oh no Ace, are you slowly being converted?

I reckon that if life is all through the universe, then, no matter what, there would have been 'a first place to have it'.

Go back in time and visit that first ever place in the Universe to 'form' life; and behold it is the Earth here and now.
This planet is the first, and still only, place in the Universe to have life. It had to start somewhere. Look after the place, it just might be the first seed, and we might just be the tap root that grows out to bring life to the rest of the cosmos. Wreck it and the seedling withers. It's up to us, and thinking we are alone might just make us appreciate it more.

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By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
6:42 am

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thats unlikely rock very unlikely

By: rushjp@xtra.co.nz
24/11/2009
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I too believe in UFO,s.. I used to think they all came from out there, but like Lanz I think some may be military, and others from bases underground. I guess over the years I have read all the books I could find on this topic in sec/hand bookshops etc, but I am still not clear on the subject.Bruce Cathie stated on one of his videos that was sold overseas that there was even a UFO base here in NZ and there has been talk of Marlborough Sounds and some bay way down in the south Island Fiords.. A lot of people around the world are now coming out with their truths so I hope it won,t be long and we will all know about these races.Has anyone else read the New Zealand book called COEVOLUTION by Alec Newald. His story happened about 1989, and occurred when he was on a trip across the Kaimais to Auckland and went missing for 10 days. I seem to remember newspaper reports about him not reaching Auckland and being missing. His story of his abduction and what happened to him then and later over the next few years makes interesting reading.

By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
7:08 am

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What's 'converted'?

It hardly is a huge leap to conclude that in the entire Universe we are the sole life form...what form any other takes who knows?...the dope lanz probably thinks they are reptiles based on his belief in Icke's theories...

...actually I do not for one second believe the Earth was the oven for life at all...I more buy the theory that meteorites brought basic life here...as they probably do to other planets...

By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
7:10 am

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used to work with a bloke who said he was abducted the aliens could not not have chosen a more nerdy out of touch guy if they tryed , 45 years old virgin never been more than 20 miles away from home , i just wonder what they thought of us humans after his probing lol

By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
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Sorry Rush I do not buy abductions...or UFO bases...

...many so-called sightings will be aircraft, military or civilian, with more sinister a purpose than some dope saw lights and wanted it to be a UFO...

...just consider how many have 'seen' the Loch Ness monster...and every UFO pic is grainy...fuzzy...so sorry...not my theory set at all....

By: rushjp@xtra.co.nz
24/11/2009
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Ace

Sorry, I don,t buy your theories

By: samantha_ch@ymail.com
24/11/2009
7:30 am

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By: chinezeburns
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used to work with a bloke who said he was abducted the aliens could not not have chosen a more nerdy out of touch guy if they tryed , 45 years old virgin never been more than 20 miles away from home , i just wonder what they thought of us humans after his probing lol
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I tidyied up their space ship, put their cloths away and cooked them a lovely shepards pie and the ungrateful meanies tossed me out in the snow.

By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
7:37 am

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did they probe every entrance sam?

By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
7:38 am

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What theories rush?

I've said its logical to assume we are 'not alone'....hardly an earth shattering theory requiring rebuttal...

By: xavarian1
24/11/2009
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So far, there have been well over 400 extra-solar planets discovered by current techniques, which are continually being refined. None of these are Earth-like. Almost all are gas giants. However, the trend has been to be discovering smaller and smaller planets and it is hoped that one day a planet with Earth-like qualities will be discovered.
I personally seriously doubt the existence of UFO's as artificial vehicles from another world, as the difficulties in getting here from even the closest star are rather severe. BUT---it cannot be ruled out. I rather think that UFO's can be explained by curious weather events, commercial aircraft and the military, although during my time in the RAF I saw nothing that could not be explained.

By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
7:59 am

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ace, your word 'believe' is typical of every theory. It can only be belief, so we make up our minds according to what suits us.
The reality is; life exists on Earth.

And that is the end of it.

There are no aliens, no psychics, no 'other worldly worlds' just us.
All the other critters on Earth know and accept that.Man doesn't.
Drop the words "Believe", "It is thought that", etc. from all this [ science as well half the time ] and you just have a pile of words.

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By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
8:03 am

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There are also entire galaxies, containing trillions of suns that may have tens of trillions of planets hurtling about them, that are so toxic with gamma radiation and such like that life cannot exist within hundreds of millions of light years of them. Indeed if you even get close enough to see such galaxies with the naked eye you will be toast!

By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
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Outer space is an extraordinarily toxic place.


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By: samantha_ch@ymail.com
24/11/2009
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did they probe every entrance sam?
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By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
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so the story goes rock

By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
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good old aliens they know how to have fun

By: therockandrollerpress
24/11/2009
8:15 am

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Nothing like a good yarn, aye chineze?

By: chinezeburns
24/11/2009
8:17 am

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it might be one of your paintings rock who realy knows

By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
8:21 am

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rock...I do not think I used the word 'believe' anywhere here...

...it is no news flash rock that we are all speculating...partly on pure logic (the universe is large enough why could there not be life in some form somewhere else?)...

...you are also speculating that none exists anywhere...

...you may show me where I used 'believe' here too...as I'm damned if I can find it...

By: ace_vendetta56
24/11/2009
8:24 am

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yes rock...toxic to humans as we know us to be...

...example rock...way down in the deep of the ocean are natural vents of boiling water...yet living on the tube worms and in the vents, are crabs, lobsters that have adapted not only to survive the heat, but the immense pressure of the deep...

...in outer space rock there may well be forms of life readily adapted to extremes...

...I for one do not think they are higher intelligence zooming about like Star Wars...they could be no more than microbes on comets, meteors and cold planets...
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