By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz 26/05/2008 8:15 am Yahoo! Profile: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I'd even go further about the NRL and say that trhis outfit only looks after its own teams. I can remember the Warriors losing points for the salary cap fiasco but none of the recent Oz teams have lost any; they were only fined. And right now there are only two teams competitive enough in the Int. RL scene and they are the Ozzies and the Poms. |
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By: dachiropractor17 25/05/2008 8:26 pm Yahoo! Profile: dachiropractor17 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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the difference is the IRB has to look after all nations - whereas the nrl looks after its own backyard which in turn degrades the international game as a whole.
league world cups are in a disarray - 8 years since the last one... only three competitive teams in the world - oz/nz/ great britain!!! and that is a total bore in itself
watching league trying to pull off a 7's tournament was painful to watch as players looked out of place.
union has come a long way...it has only been professional for 14 seasons and it has made giant strides hence why league players are looking at union as a way to get around the world |
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By: tim.brown469 25/05/2008 2:00 am Yahoo! Profile: tim.brown469 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I too have played both codes in NZ, Ozy and EUR and now a Union coach. I find the comments interesting but both codes have there place in sport and certain aspects have been adopted from each eg: league defensive patterns etc and visa versa. In the past players generally transfered from Union to league due to the contract offering but we are now observing a swing toward Union due to it turning professional. The real concern now is not what code is demanding our players, but where in the world they are going to. Europe is draining the southern hemisphere of its talented player pools due to the high paying contracts and with NZ and OZY clubs and franchises unable to compete. France is top of this list with the UK also swallowing our talent. This leaves a risk for the future of the game unless in Union the NZRFU open their international selection process to those players playing off shore, but I hardly see this happening quickly due to their inability to adjust to the global game and wanting to maintain control. As far as a spectator sport and professionalism, in my view, league especially in OZ has again toppled Union in most aspects of marketing the game to the masses because there is a large working class population. Here in lies the diffence between the draconian IRB form of administration compared to its league counterparts. Competitions like the Super14 have become a bore until the semis due to the PC IRB rule changes that have taken the hardness out of the game because the Northern hemisphere cant compete and sponsorship and TV rights is more important now more then ever. I had always found Union easier to play then league due to the physical demands league places on your body. As a center, league gave me the foundation tackling skills and attitude to counter any union player running with the ball from the front row to fullback and thats 1/2 the battle won. The more intense league training (in Ozy) also gives one the dicipline and prearation for each game. |
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By: madman3104 13/05/2008 2:23 pm Yahoo! Profile: madman3104 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| Both games can be great, or both games can be rubbish on the day. Depends on who decides to turn up and play on the day! |
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By: di13@xtra.co.nz 12/05/2008 8:13 am Yahoo! Profile: di13@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| ive played both,ive played league,ive played rugby,and i think rugbys a much more team orientated sport whereas league has alot of individualism about it,where if crucial plays are called upon in league,you go to your playmakers or stars,in rugby the forwards can be the ones who get you across the line,ive always loved the comparisons that fans have made over the years involving leaugie and rah rah players,who had a better kicking game out of Carlos Spencer or Andrew Johns? Lesley Vainikolo Vs Jonah Lomu,how would Jerry Collins or Ma'a Nonu go in league? how would Willie Mason go in Rugby? many leaugies have transferred to union,Brad Thorn,Tuqiri,Ryan Cross,Berrick Barnes,Tyrone Smith,while over the years,many union players have crossed over to league Vaiaiaga Tuigamala,John Gallagher,John Timu,Halligan,Ridge,Schus ter,theres even comparisons made nowadays of how similar defensive patterns look in both codes! as to what code makes NZ world famous,League or Rugby?,Rugby of course!,The All Blacks,just a mention of the word 'ALL BLACK' anywhere in the world,it immediately connects you back to nz. |
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By: gvtstkwi08 11/05/2008 6:50 pm Yahoo! Profile: gvtstkwi08 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| anyone can fight in a cage but not many can play rugby or league.Rugby is more technical and with 30 players on the field,you need a few more rules.League is much more entertainig now especially with more emphasis on speed especially round the ruck area and more atheletisim |
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By: dachiropractor17 10/05/2008 12:17 am Yahoo! Profile: dachiropractor17 Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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cage fighting as in mixed martial arts????
well to me it looks like a fight outside a pub on a late sunday morning:):):) |
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By: juzzkirk 9/05/2008 9:09 pm Yahoo! Profile: juzzkirk Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| league bores me now,ten years ago league was a game and now unfortunately rugby is going down the same road.......now cage fighting has the things both codes lake .......mongrel and agression |
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By: matt2008@xtra.co.nz 9/05/2008 8:31 pm Yahoo! Profile: matt2008@xtra.co.nz Did this message offend you? Sign in to report abuse |
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| I'm a fan of both, both great to watch. I've been coaching a while now and I have to say I can't help but laugh when people claim there is as much strategy involved in league. I'm not saying there no skill, there is skill in both. but as a team there is much more in union. Its is a more well rounded game. |
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