By: kejolin01
23/01/2009
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| Tua will win, if not by knock out but by the ref stopping the fight...camerons been boxing good but Tua has that power.Remember the fight rumble in the jungle,foreman was an active fighter just like cameron...but got beaten by a fighter that had experience & plenty of time to recover his body for a big fight.Tua is like ali.. |
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By: stevenhawkins@xtra.co.nz
23/01/2009
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| Well I stand by my original statement. An overweight and un exercised Tua has plenty of training just to lose the weight, let alone get back into the ring to get combinations,timing and movement working again, how long since he's been active MMMMMMMMM, this all takes time and I believe that time is aganst Tua here.Meantime Cameron has been working and obviously looks the better of the two and does not need to shed any pounds or work on to bring his ring skills back ,he can simply work on improvment,now thats the advantage he has. It will go past two round guys and those of you who talk about the Tua-Lewis fight that was just a joke Lewis simply played with a much lesser opponant. I still put Cameron to win on points |
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By: sxualchoklit
22/01/2009
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| LMAO! Yeah Kevin Reinsfeld is abit of a d *** Head! I've heard Cameron is a snob...dat ture? |
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By: sxualchoklit
22/01/2009
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Cameron VS Tua Fight Analysis
- The ONLY way Cameron will win this fight is by Points!
- He needs to box on the outer and jab his way to victory.
- If Cameron tries to 'SLUG IT' with Tua who is a world re-known KNOCK-OUT ARTIST, and has never been knocked out! Cameron will hit the canvas for the 2nd time of his career!
- Tua has been inactive for almost 3 years and last time he fought his hand speed had deteriorated to the point where you could counter most his punches. So they need to capitalise on that! It will be a boring fight plan but effective! Exactly how Lennox beat him!
- OBVIOUSLY, Tua needs to win by Knockout! He's been inactive for too long...
- Cameron cuts too easily, if he bleeds like he did against Friday, the fight could be stopped or he could be knocked out. Cameron has alot of heart but for this particular fight he needs more brains.
- Cameron's other weakness is that because he is a bloke who wont take a backward step, he's easily encouraged. Tua could lure him into a Slug Fest and get a quick result that way.
Verdict:
- IF Cameron sticks to the Jab & Counter punching routine and fights on the outer- HE WILL WIN BY POINTS
- But don't discount Tua, if he lure Cameron into a slug fest, this fight will NOT go the distance and Tua will win by KO. |
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By: j.hukui
22/01/2009
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sorry Tua to win in round 2-3 or Cameron in 12
I won 400 on Tua beating hagler in round 1 or 2, but he was paying 20-1 then, he pays about 10 to 1 or less now in the first few rounds |
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By: j.hukui
22/01/2009
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well deff a Tua supporting group on here...
But, Im a Tua fan always have been always will be..
Cameron has deffinately got a shot, Tua has hardly been in the ring for 3 years, and as much as evey one says camoeron is 2nd rate, I havnt seen Tua do anything first rate for a few years also.
Friday the 13th type boxers or suld I say boxer beat Shane fair and square in a good slug fest but Friday 13th aint a champ, but he aint a bum either he's still doing OK at the level below..
Tua has done it all, and Im still pissed with his cooach/trainer wht ever messing him around with a 2-3 years of Tua's last good years..
What I am saying is
1) short boxers peak before 30 aka Tyson, but I know a samoan like Tua is a different body shape big as samoa legs and arms etc, but hey a Lenix build can fight till 40.
2) Cameron will not have the outright power of Tua, but Cameron can punch as hard as the rest of them at the moment.
3) Cameron can take a few too, so if Tua cant get him by round 3, it will go all the way..
My money Tua to win round 2 or 3, or cameron to win in 12
Yep I know Tua would win at the age of 21-31 evry time but Tua aint that age now and when did he last fight more than 5 rounds....4 years ago or what..
Man the Dude better be fit cause anyone thinking this will be easy as is Samoan haha
I will be a Tua supporter on the night, but hey Cameron is a kiwi, and to me a little, it will be like Highlanders playing Auck, I sort of like them both, but I hope Tua wins for prides sake and I hope its is a TKO not a complete wake up Monday cause that will be he end of Cameron.. |
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By: putionz
22/01/2009
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FYI
http://tvnz.co.nz/othersports-news/tua-favoured-bo okies-2449137/video |
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By: jawm_jawm
22/01/2009
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| Camerons good but Tua's gonna knock him out because Tua has fought against fighters of note like Lennox Lewis, Michael Moorer, Hasim Rahmin (spelling?) and many others. Who has Cameron fought? |
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By: gvtstkwi08
22/01/2009
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another Cameron supporter who is blinded by little ole NZ hype about a boxer which the real boxing world doesnt give a monkeys.Its about as pathetic as you....buddy.
You actually think Cameron has a chance against a boxer like Tua???You are an idiot,do your home work..you obviously know nothing about boxing too...buddy!Cameron is fighting a real heavyweight ,not a boxer ranked 150th |
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By: krazykiwi_08
22/01/2009
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| "wake up!!!! Obviously you no nothing about World Heavyweight boxing buddy!!" Mate look in the mirror your the same.... buddy. |
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By: gvtstkwi08
21/01/2009
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Wake up!!!!!!!!Obviously you know nothing about World Heavyweight boxing buddy!!Cameron is not a top world heavy weight in the real boxing world.New Zealand is not the boxing capital,the States is .If you cnt make it in the States then you are just another boxer,Tua was the world no.1 contender,Tua has fought boxers in the top ten and Tua has not been knocked out.
Never under estimate experience mate,Tua has it all and Cameron is a nobody who has been knocked out by a boxer ranked 105th.Cameron is a bleeder and we all know he cn"t take a big hit.Foreman,Hollifeld trying their luck in their mid 40s and doing themselves proud,experience got them through and with Tua only in his early thirties he can beat anyone.
The problem is nobody in the top ten will fight the hardest hitting heavyweight in the world in Tua-man.
Cameron is not in Tua's class,he hasnt got the same killer instinct and we all know Cameron doesnt have the stamina or rock hard jaw like Tua.
Tua to knock out Cameron within two rounds easily. |
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By: stevenhawkins@xtra.co.nz
21/01/2009
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| lets face it Tua has not been in great form and he looked very average against some very average fighters. Now I agree that Cameron does not want to get hit but has Tua still got that punch,I think not, Cameron will have the edge over Tua and I think that you need to be realistic he chap it will go past 2 rounds,it may even go the distance with Cameron coming out on top |
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By: nick.goody
21/01/2009
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| 2 rounds at most. Unless the tv people tell Tua to drag it out so the public get a good show. |
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By: brownone692003
21/01/2009
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| Yea I agree I think Shane is a better boxer nowdays,but he still lacks a real knock out punch,it will be interesting to see the style of fight he uses.If he trys to fight Tua on the inside and takes a couple of Tuas big hits,he might need the blood bin early on in the bout.I hope not. |
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By: brownhot_666
21/01/2009
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i think shane cameron is a better boxer now than 2 years ago.i support my uso tua but i hope tua works hard for this one,as this will not a walk in the park.the boxer that trains hard and works hard gets the win,but tua's got that sneaky little left hook that can put u to sleep.
end of the day they both win monetary rewards..good on you guys..both deserve it..i just hope sky tv will not rip us off with thier pay per view as this is not a world title fight..so sky tv be fair,10.00 is enough.. |
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By: shane_avant
21/01/2009
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| I met Cameron a few weeks back and also his manager and i tell you what a knob, i hope he gets knocked clean out with ine of Tua's hooks haha |
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By: brownone692003
21/01/2009
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| I admit he has gone a long way,but look at some of the fighters he has fought,many of them were no names and has beens.I still say put him against someone with some class and hes gone.Im not saying Cameron is a classy boxer cause he sure aint.His career has sure been up and down,mind you so has Camerons to a lesser extent,if Tua is 100%fit for this fight then he might be to strong for Cameron,we shall see. |
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By: dachiropractor17
20/01/2009
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he was the first to sign for this fight ..... no excuses:):):):) lol
what other boxer from nz in the last 2 decades has gone where hes been?? hehehe
shane got sent back from the states - like who gets that treatment?? lol
tua will be ready, to teach shane a lesson:):)
too bad friday the 13th got there first!!! |
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By: brownone692003
20/01/2009
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| Tua is a spent force,excuse after excuse,blames this and that for a long layoff,reckons he will be in the prime of his life for this fight,I doubt it.Cameron has he got it,not sure,should be an interesting fight just the same |
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By: dachiropractor17
18/01/2009
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sunshine ....
have a read of all the forums dating back a year and a half, then come back to me and say something worth reading:):):):):)
and the chip on my shoulder?? no ... im not the one with the problem, its you lomipeau champ:):):):)
its not good when youre selective with your posts.... as you can see, the postee who i had a decent debate with turned all sour, and his posts breached yahoos rules, hence the deleted messages:):):):):):):)
but its ok, i deal with people that try and influence others.
take note nd learn from the master .... youve entered a deabting chamber... sports and whatever ...
feel free to add your input:):):)
and dont get too political ...
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By: lomipeau001
18/01/2009
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| dachiropractor17-why you have to bring Tongans into this (5/07/2008) - got a chip on your shoulders? You say Tongans are this and that, usually racism starts cos people attribute negative stereotypes to other peoples that they see those same attributes in their own. |
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By: spiketopp@rocketmail.com
17/01/2009
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| very hairy Mr Sire |
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By: thetruthjan06
12/01/2009
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Paea Wolgram Won an Olympic Medal!!!!!!!!
David Tua won an Olympic Medal!!!!
Cameron won............
Didn't David help Cameron by offering a place to stay and train leading upto the 2002 Commonwealth Games and now he wants to compete against him...Cmon show some respect here mate...
And now...Cameron struggling to sign becasue one of his sponsosrs ripped off all the kiwis with the dodgy finance company run by Eric Watson!! C'mon can we trust that its going to happen.
Why is that people who deal with the finacial side of boxing kill the athlete hope and become a majoe distraction
David Tua....Kevin and other guy that robbed them blind
Shame Cameron....now Eric Watson....
Ray Sefo....manager...whose now bankrupt
Sad!!!!!!!!!
GO TUA!!!!! |
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By: m4_counties.mnks
10/07/2008
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| ok, then, you win, all I know, when I rep. C Manukau in league, when I was younger,we was competing, with Akld, we sure as hell, didn't see eye to eye, with that lot, and I think, all the sports people, rep., counties manukau, would feel the same way too,.. |
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By: j.hukui
10/07/2008
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rog400
come on David Tua our best ever boxer NZ, I think
Wolfgramm did well, I reccon Cameron is better than Wolfgramm.
Why you guys hate Cameron so much..
I can see why you hate Revell
But watching Friday 13 fight on sky last week, he did well. And Cameron may only ever fight for the next level..
ie not tp 10 or maybe even top 20, but a nz fighter
in the World top 20 to me is great.
I know IM OUT OF MY DEPTH with you lot a little but very proud, and living in Dunedin..
But love driving past Tua's house in Mangere when I get up there..
But like watching Cameron fight, and trying to step up to fight David, like a prospector taking on a big fella.
Cant put him down for that..
He's OK, not Tua but OK |
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