By: dachiropractorl7
30/11/2009
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just enjoying the all blacks win:):):)
nice:):) |
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By: zorrothepuma
30/11/2009
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Fakechirothefudgec0lumnpa cker,
where do you "read" all the garbage you say you have read? Your imagination is larger than NZ soccer. |
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By: dachiropractorl7
30/11/2009
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just to let you know that kaino only played in one game on that 2004 tour - against the barbarians.
king henry gave everyone a run during the autumn tests, and finally put the masterpiece together against france:):) lol
i have read that FIFA have invited the all blacks to represent nz at the soccer world cup, after wearing those whites jerseys:):) henry and the boys declined the invitation , stating that they didnt want to steal the all whites thunder:):) lol
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By: ru_tetoi
29/11/2009
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I agree with renee (you remind of the riddler another blogger who had an astute rugby brain keep them coming)
donnelly got his opportunity through injury he was off the radar screen, coaches have a lot to do with how players perform in this category Henry & Co excel |
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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When did i complain about the coaches or the game ? I was just pointing out that G.H didn't create these players like you claim then you get all upset about it duh i'm renee you idiot because me make dumb statement that not true me used to be prop duhhhh so me no all bout rugby
Obviously never heard of allblacks.co.nz either made you look stupid
As for Donnelly I have no idea why those other guys where selected ahead of him especially Rawlinson I thought he would gone ahead of Borich but wasn't to be , Kevin'O Neil got picked because of his height not because he is actually good I figure its just beacuse Otago has been so average for such a long time that they never really could rate any of their players until they were forced too Simon Maling was another Otago player who was in the same boat.
I guess it depends which games you spend most of your time watching |
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By: rugbycolumn
29/11/2009
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I'm with renee on this one.
I was in the UK visiting my Grandfather during the 2004 tour and followed it closely (only got to one game though- too bloody expensive).
Kaino was a filler back then, only an idiot would have benched Collins or So'olialo to play him during a test match.
Donellys selection must have surprised a few (it did me), especially for what was a must win match against the Wallabies- I would have thought Eaton would get the nod or Ross would be put in again before him.
And lastly, I was whinging all tour about the rubbish selections and average AB performances- but this morning I got the big finger from Ted- sometimes being wrong isn't so bad. |
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By: renee8@xtra.co.nz
29/11/2009
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Yep don't know my AB history that well anchorman, Kaino was in the squad, points to you for getting something right, good old wikipedia aye.
Although you haven't even proved that he got on the field, show me the test 22, my memory (albeit fading) is that the only game time Kaino got on that tour was the final baa baa's game. He definitely didn't play a game winning hand in the french test.
The idea that Donelly has been on the fringes of selection for the AB's is not right either. If so why in the time he has been playing S14 have the likes of Eaton, Boric, Ross, O'Neil, Rawlinson etc all been given a shot a head of him. The only reason that he got a look in this year is because we had major injury issues. He was a solid journeyman at S14 level, no one this year expected anything from him at test level, hence the suprise from a lot of people that he has gone so well.
But my main point was that idiots like you still have to find something to bit.ch and moan about with GH. The guy keeps on producing teams that keep on winning when they are told they shouldn't. Why can't you just be happy with a brilliant near faultless win? |
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By: mauiatalanga2
29/11/2009
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| putu2.....how bout them hapless frogs against the All Blacks yesterday? puts into perspective how inferior northern hemisphere rugby is in the "pecking order" ha,ha,ha,ha!!!!!! |
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By: put_u2slpagain
29/11/2009
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what about the hapless samoans against those french
last week, put's into perspective how far behind samoa has fallen in rugbys pecking order |
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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| I don't know if he started that test or not but he did get a lot of game time and he was mean thats what bemused everyone when he went awol in 2005 he looked like he was the next 'big thing' but just kind of fell away - did he start drinking or have off the field problems or something ? I think i heard something like that |
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By: dachiropractorl7
29/11/2009
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kaino didnt start that test back in 2004, the back row were collins, mccaw and sooialo. kaino was a boy back then, went awol in 2005, was recalled in 2006 and finally got another callup again in 2008 and hasnt looked back since ...
as for neil, well he is a dingo lover of course:):):) lol after the wallabies convincing win over the welsh, neil and his dingo'ites were celebrating lke there was no tomorrow.... and not only that, they were also hoping that the french and their "hostile" crowd will be too much for the all blacks........
5 tries later and now neil and his dingo'ites have locked themselves in a room and are already thinking up an excuse on why the all blacks were just so bloody awesome....
just waiting for it ....
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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| I agree with you gvst, read the previous posts and you will see Renee has got huge hard on for Graham Henry and he was claiming G.H made Donelley and Kaino and I just pointed out the most people that watch rugby know Donelley has been on the fringes for the past 2 years and Kaino played a replica of his game against france in 2004 in which i received a lot of abuse and i want the coaches change and whaa whaa whaa i want my mummy and I was also told that Kaino wasnt even in the blues at that point and nowhere near the All Blacks yet there is his name in the team list and he played f..kn awesome in that game 2 |
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By: gvtstkwi08
29/11/2009
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| who cares what happen in 2004 the ABs are always judged on their last game they played, |
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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Renee you have just showed your complete and utter ignorance here is the
2004 All Blacks Squad
Forwards
Ali Williams
Andrew Hore
Anton Oliver
Carl Hayman
Chris Jack
Corey Flynn
Craig Newby
Greg Somerville
Jerome Kaino (Look at me apparently I haven't started rugby yet I'm an AB)
Jerry Collins
Jono Gibbes
Kees Meeuws
Keith Robinson
Keven Mealamu
Marty Holah
Mose Tuiali'i
Norm Maxwell
Reuben Thorne
Richie McCaw
Rodney So'oialo
Saimone Taumoepeau
Simon Maling
Steven Bates
Tony Wood
Xavier Rush
Backs
Aaron Mauger
Andrew Mehrtens
Byron Kelleher
Carlos Spencer
Casey Laulala
Conrad Smith
Dan Carter
Doug Howlett
Jimmy Cowan
Josevata Rokocoko
Justin Marshall
Luke McAlister
Ma'a Nonu
Malili Muliaina
Nick Evans
Piri Weepu
Rico Gear
Sam Tuitupou
Tana Umaga
Brian Lochore - Selector
Graham Henry - Coach
Steve Hansen - Asst Coach
Wayne Smith - Asst Coach
I'm sorry the score was actually 45-6 your knowledge and history of the AB's amazes me get out of here school boy till you can get your facts straight |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
29/11/2009
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| oops; 'failed to score'. I must be excited over the results ......... |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
29/11/2009
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| Would have to be of some concern is that France, Scotland, Ireland and Wales fsailed to socre a single try amongst them. At long last the boring, boring,boring type of rugby they play is seeing their total demise and I personally would hope that the IRB reduce the drop goal to 1 only point. Well done the AB's,the Wallabies and Argentina. Oh; and well done Ireland though tryless............ |
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By: renee8@xtra.co.nz
29/11/2009
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"I always rated Donnelley and felt should have been in the AB's a couple of years ago the coaches are just reaping the reward of finally giving him a go and Kaino just played the rugby that got him in the ABs' in the first place it was basically a replica performance of the one he gave in paris a few years ago as the 2nd string ABs' wiped the floor with a full strength french team in the capital 43 -6 or whatever the score was I am not dissing the coaches just try get you to the see it the way it actually is"
What are you talking about anchorman, Donelly has never shown the type of form he has in the last few tests for the Highlanders, and when Kaino was selected he was predominantly playing 8 and like I said was playing a loose game where he ran with the ball in hand a lot, which is markedly different to what he is playing like now.
Not sure what you are talking about in regards to the 43 - 6 win a few years ago, Kaino hadn't even made the Blues squad then let alone the AB's.
You trying to make out that the coaches finally slected Donnelly after years of ignoring him and he was always destined to be a star and that any coach would have selected Kaino, which is all utter shyte.
Those 2 guys plus numerous others are playing as good as they are because they have been coached by GH and co, not inspite of them.
And you are dissing the coach anchor, by trying to say that the preformance of those 2 players is not down to GH but would have happened no matter who was coaching. Get over yourself, and enjoy the win without critising for a change. |
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By: put_u2slpagain
29/11/2009
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sivivatu has got to be freak of the year
what acceleration from a standing start |
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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| gvst did you post that Mills, Jane and Sivi play a more physical game than Lomu umm do you need see a replay of the 95 world cup ? or subsequent games were Lomu runs around with like 8 players on his back faster game yes more physical i don;t think so |
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By: anchorman334
29/11/2009
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| Nonu was the probably was the best 2nd 5 in the world that 1st half I just don't get why halfway thru the game he tries to be a one man band I can't help but feel if he had played the same game the ABs' would have got to 50 still an awesome game. You get what I am saying thou ? |
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By: gvtstkwi08
29/11/2009
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| the only thing Cullen,Wilson and Jonah have in common with Mills,Jane and Sivi p.i.xel bandit is that they havent won a world cup,Mills ,Jane and Sivi play a more physical and more faster game |
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By: anchorman334
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| I always rated Donnelley and felt should have been in the AB's a couple of years ago the coaches are just reaping the reward of finally giving him a go and Kaino just played the rugby that got him in the ABs' in the first place it was basically a replica performance of the one he gave in paris a few years ago as the 2nd string ABs' wiped the floor with a full strength french team in the capital 43 -6 or whatever the score was I am not dissing the coaches just try get you to the see it the way it actually is |
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By: gvtstkwi08
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| i tell you whats wrong with Maa Nonu,the only problem he has is that hes the best 2nd five in the world and everyone else come second to daylight |
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By: talitonu@ymail.com
29/11/2009
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<If you turn your clueless thinking caps on and have a good think about where they are playing, in the south of france, in a hostile environment, where they absolutely hate and detest dorklanders, even with Carter and McCaw, the all blacks are going to struggle, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out you morons>
If you don't already know Neil you are again officially irrelevant. Moron much? Apparently you do judging by your fan club on these threads. Has Dingo's milk not turned sour yet? one or two games is hardly a sample space for a history in any fixture but I can certainly assure that the ABS have played in many unfriendly venues. It's about time you took a running jump pal.
DAC sort this mindless goober out will ya he needs a reality check! |
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By: renee8@xtra.co.nz
29/11/2009
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Damn thats what we want, freakin great game. The best of the NH absolutely smashed 5 tries to nil. Thats made my year, I can happily watch some cricket over the summer knowing the coaches have the team heading in the right direction.
The whole team played well but standouts for me were:
Donnelly - I never really rated the guy when he was playing S14, I thought he was an honest journeyman and thats all. But over the last few tests he has shown some skills you never saw at the level below, maybe something to do with the coaching?? Nah surely not!!
Kaino - Thompson is good in certain games but Kaino is what we need at test level. And IMO he does everything that Messam simply can't do. He use to have a pretty loose game a couple of seasons ago but has obviously been coached by the AB coach's to tighten up. Now everytime he hits a ruck or someone in the tackle he hurts them. He also has the power to nake yards in the tight or a couple out from the ruck against other big men, which we saw 2 or 3 times today.
Smith - The guy made a huge number of tackles and didn't miss one, he broke the line and looked dangerous everytime he had the ball, and he leads the backline. The guy is a freakin world class centre. Give me Smith over BOD any day of the week.
Mils - The guy has once again proved he is the best alround 15 in the world, like others I thought he was on the way down but has over the last 5 tests slowly but surely come back into form and was on fire last night.
Sorry Andy your dreaming if you think the NH are any closer to us that previous years, you simply aren't, the North are as far away as ever. We keep on winning and then when its needed we pull a game out of the hat like that. |
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