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By: wharfie72
21/05/2008
4:26 pm

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I know you're a bit slow daquack, but the pathetic copycats who worship me, and want to be me, and wish they were me, and actually try to get an ID so close to mine are the real sad ones.
I'm sure Kiwi_kea just agrees with me - nothing wrong with that, as I am right is saying that rugby is nothing and attracts neanderthals.

By: dachiropractor17
21/05/2008
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well....i know one person who loves you wharfie....

kiwi_kea bear:):)

look him up.....

By: wharfie72
21/05/2008
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the "copy cat" as per Oxford dictionary;

noun informal a person who copies another, especially slavishly...

I rest my case.
Why do you want to be me? why are you in love with me?

By: whartie72
20/05/2008
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Looks like I need to up my medication, Im rambling again. Cant wait for the Super 14 semi's this weekend. My favourite team is the Hurricanes. Hopefully the South African team will get knocked out because mum wont let me stay up late for those games and I want a kiwi team to win. Im so excited, I hope I dont wet the bed again tonight.

By: dachiropractor17
20/05/2008
9:24 pm

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poor thing......

By: wharfie72
20/05/2008
8:10 pm

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the "copy cat" as per Oxford dictionary;

noun informal a person who copies another, especially slavishly...

I rest my case.

By: dachiropractor17
20/05/2008
5:43 pm

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all blacks vs ireland soon...... cant wait:):):):)

By: whartie72
20/05/2008
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*comments* sorry, typo!

By: whartie72
20/05/2008
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Ive been to the doctor today and he says I have multiple personality syndrome. Its stems back to my school days when I was bullied by the bigger kids. This also explains my bed wetting problem. I am on medication now but he says that I may slip back into my other personality, the angry anti everything one, so please ignore any cooments I make in anger. Its just the scared little boy with wet pants lashing out. Sorry again.

By: wharfie72
20/05/2008
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Another fan of myself by calling itself 'whartie72'.
So many neanderthals in love with me, trying to be me, copying me, idolising me, immitating me, wishing they were me.
Well, you are not me and never will be. Trying to copy an ID is just pathetic. Sad & pathetic.

By: johnfhaydock
20/05/2008
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Violence cannot be condoned in any form. It is a sad fact that soccer is marred by a constant stream of incidents carried out by so called supporters of the game. Only consolation is that it is a tiny percentage involved although some antics on/off the pitch do not help the situation.
I have refereed both rugby and soccer games from ages 5+ to adults and have to concede that the attitude shown by the average soccer player falls a long way short of the rugby player. Having also attended international matches for both soccer and rugby, I must also concede that the behaviour of a soccer crowd is a lot worse than for rugby. I have enjoyed pre and post match drinks with opposition rugby supporters and the behaviour and cameradie has always been excellent. For pre and post socialising at soccer, I have experienced tear gas being released in bars, restaurant windows being smashed (whilst dining), being chased by a mob and having my car stolen!

Conclusion? Rugby is superior in terms of behaviour of both players and supporters.

By: dachiropractor17
20/05/2008
2:04 pm

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Night of soccer violence in France reveals an ugly underside
By Elaine Sciolino / The New York TimesPublished:



PARIS: They call themselves "The Ultras." They are the hardest of the hard-core soccer fans of France, the ones with the edgy reputations for being racist, right-wing, anti-Semitic and even violent.

For two decades, they have operated openly in defined groups without much interference from the police or soccer officials, who claim they have limited authority to stop them.

On Thursday night, a group of these ultra-right supporters of the Paris Saint-Germain team set off a chain of events that ended with one of their own shot and killed by a black policeman.

The tragedy has sparked nationwide soul-searching and finger-pointing as the French government, soccer officials, analysts and fans confront the violence and hate that have poisoned the sport.

Nicolas Sarkozy, the interior minister and presidential hopeful, who describes himself as a fan of the Paris Saint-Germain team, has vowed to clean up the Paris stadium, considered the most hostile in France, even if it means emptying it of spectators.

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"We prefer to see stands that are empty than full of unwanted people," Sarkozy said after meeting with soccer officials and supporters' groups on Saturday, adding, "We no longer want racists, *** salutes, monkey noises in stadiums. Soccer is not war."

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20/05/2008
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But there is sharp criticism that the government, the Paris Saint-Germain team and the official fan clubs that support it have not done enough to curb the phenomenon for fear of driving away fans. Fines have been imposed only sporadically on fans guilty of racist or violent behavior, and only a small number of unruly fans have been banned from stadiums.

"This problem has gone on since the 1980s, but there hasn't been the political will to crack down," said Dominique Bodin, a sociologist and author of a book on sports and violence in Europe, in an interview. "We're a democracy, and there are laws on the books that have to be enforced. There needs to be better education of the young."

The police knew in advance that the game Thursday at Parc des Princes stadium on the edge of Paris could turn ugly. The adversary was a team from Tel Aviv. Extra police were on duty.

The trouble began outside the stadium, as is often the case, after the Paris team was defeated, 4-2. Dozens of Paris supporters pursued and cornered Yanniv Hazout, 25, a Frenchman who is Jewish.

A plainclothes transport police officer, Antoine Granomort, 32, who was guarding a parking lot, rushed to shield him from the crowd.

"The crowd hurled insults - 'dirty Jew,' 'Dirty Negro' and monkey cries - and raised *** salutes," the state prosecutor, Jean-Claude Marin, said afterward.

He added that they also shouted, "Le Pen, President!" a reference to Jean- Marie Le Pen, the far-right National Front leader who plans to run in the presidential election in April. According to Sarkozy, some fans shouted, "Death to the Jew!" before attacking Hazout.

When the crowd began kicking and beating Granomort and apparently threatened to kill the fan he was protecting, he fired his service revolver, killing Julien Quemener, 25, a home-appliance technician, and wounding Mounir Boujaer, 26, a truck driver, according to several witness accounts.

A fan who called himself Maxmax said on an Ultra Internet m ...

By: dachiropractor17
20/05/2008
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On Sunday in Sofia, a police officer was hospitalized with a broken nose and 25 fans were arrested following clashes after a game between Levski Sofia, one of Bulgaria's leading teams, and a rival team, Litex Lovech. In a match against Barcelona in Sofia last week, Levski Sofia fans held posters with swastikas and threw firecrackers onto the field.

But France, with its long history of secularism and official color-blindness, is particularly sensitive to racist, ethnic and anti-Semitic insults and acts, both on and off the soccer field. The fact that so many of the players on French teams are black or of North African Arab origin has cut both ways. (Seventeen of the 23 players on France's national team that played in the World Cup last summer are minorities.)

While the multiracial character of the sport long has been praised for reflecting diversity in France, some rightist politicians have criticized soccer teams for being not white enough.

Two weeks ago, Georges Frêche, the Socialist president of the Languedoc- Roussillon region, was quoted as telling a local council that he was ashamed that so many of the 11 starters on the French national team are black. "It would be normal if there were three or four, that would be a reflection of society," Frêche was quoted as saying. "But if there are so many, it's because whites are no good. I'm ashamed for this country. Soon there will be 11 blacks."

President Jacques Chirac immediately condemned the remarks. Frêche said his comments had been taken out of context.

Before the 1998 World Cup, Le Pen called the French team "artificial" because of its ethnic and racial makeup. In June, before the World Cup, he said that France "doesn't totally recognize itself in this team," because there may be too many "players of color."

At a news conference on Tuesday, Le Pen accused Marin, the state prosecutor, of defamation for suggesting that he was somehow linked to the racism on display on the night of the shooting. ...

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20/05/2008
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Soccer: Violence mars UEFA Cup final
11:30AM Thursday May 15, 2008

An injured Rangers fan is tended to after fighting with British riot police after their team lost to Zenit St. Petersburg in the UEFA Cup soccer final in central Manchester. Photo / Reuters

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MANCHESTER - Rangers fans clashed with Manchester police at a public screening of the Scottish side's UEFA Cup final against Zenit St. Petersburg today.

Some 100,000 mostly ticketless Scots were thought to have travelled south from Glasgow and watched the match from two designated fan zones in downtown Manchester.

In a separate incident, a Russian fan was stabbed outside the stadium, police said, but had non-life threatening injuries. Police said six men were arrested for serious assault, but did not provide details.

Eight soccer fans were arrested before the match, but more extensive crowd trouble flared after one of the giant TV screens in downtown Manchester suffered technical problems.

Police in riot gear charged at Rangers fans with batons after being pelted with bottles and cans.

To pacify the irritated crowd, fans were urged to travel to watch screens at a velodrome next to the City of Manchester Stadium.

Only brief details of the earlier eight arrests were released and not their nationalities.

Two fans were arrested on suspicion of assault, two for public order offenses, one for theft, one for possession of an offensive weapon and one for possession of drugs.

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20/05/2008
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By BBC News - Martin Asser

Soccer hoolig *** m has often been called 'the worldwide disease' but this kind of antisocial behaviour characterised by the term occurs almost everywhere the sport is played.

Fans of England's national team do hit the headlines more than any other after their violent clashes on the international stage.



A German fan arrested before the England v Germany clash

Hooligans in the rest of Europe, by contrast, usually fight their battles at home, often expressing local, regional or subnational rivalries.

But fans from Germany, Holland, Belgium and elsewhere have been prepared to bury internal differences to battle it out with foreign fans and police on the pavements of European cities.

During the 1998 World Cup a French policeman nearly died after being badly beaten by German fans. And earlier this year two Leeds United supporters were stabbed to death by followers of the Turkish club Galatasaray.

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20/05/2008
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cont.

cold-blooded murderer, while the dead young man became a kind of martyr of anti-globalism and (strangely) pacifism. Today, there is a room in the House of Deputies dedicated to that young hooligan, organized by the parliamentary group of Communist Refoundation.

The culture of A.C.A.B. (All Cobs Are *** s) has spread from the UK to Italy, thanks in part to adults incapable of educating young people to anything other than cynical nihilism. A pseudo-culture of illegality is spread by many media operators and politicians. Every legitimate exercise of authority is often judged as an abuse of power, or even an act of fascism.

So the problem is both cultural and political.

An anti-political, anarchical violence is being used and supported by parties on the far right and left for their own purposes. Since the Italian parliamentary system requires coalition, moderate left and right parties have to form alliances with some of these extreme movements. To maintain these coalitions our ruling classes sometimes have to close their eyes, and response to violence is never complete or sufficient. The cultural milieu of intellectuals and journalists justifies the violence with tired sociological arguments. Too bad for their theories that almost all the violent soccer fans are lazy sons of affluent families.

A spoiled kid who kills a cop just for pleasure or to appear as a negative hero to his peer group or simply to silent his boredom has no reason and no excuse. Nor can he even claim courage, since the hooligans always outnumber the police. Soccer fan violence is therefore a problem of the rule of law and the use of legal force by public authorities. Educational and cultural policies ought to follow from that.

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20/05/2008
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Soccer Violence and the Culture of Illegality
by Danilo Breschi ·
Last February 3, a policeman, Filippo Raciti, 38 years old, was killed by a "fan" during an urban battle outside the stadium of Catania after the soccer match Catania-Palermo. As of this writing, the murderer has not been identified. He could well be a teenager. He could have used a steel bolt or perhaps a basin ripped out of a stadium bathroom to pummel the policeman's liver. The investigations continue. The policeman was married and the father of two young sons.

In Italy the violence of soccer fans is not a new phenomenon. It could be largely solved through legitimate repression, an appropriate application of legal violence by the state to establish a respect for law in order to prevent its violation. Yet there has not been adequate legislation to address the problem, and the best current laws have never been enforced. The primary issue has never been money—even though soccer is big business in Italy.

The key problem is that there is no civic culture to sustain law and order (a formula which most of the Italian intelligentsia reject as "fascist"). A pseudo-sociological culture has similarly rejected the term "repression," replacing it with "pre-emption," even though very little has been pre-empted during the past thirty years. The result? Every year there is plenty of fighting around soccer games, and sometimes someone dies, but nothing changes.

Recently, this para-anarchical mob violence has gained support from the far left parties that are in the current governing coalition. In July 2001, during demonstrations against the G-8 meeting in Genua, a carabiniere shot a young man who had tried to kill him with a fire extinguisher. The carabiniere acted in self-defense. Yet he was forced to leave his job and publicly denounced as a cold-blooded murderer, while the dead young man became a kind of

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20/05/2008
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ROME, May 18 (Reuters) - Two Italian police officers were injured during clashes with fans before a soccer match in Parma on Sunday, local media reported.

A 28-year-old policeman suffered multiple abdominal injuries and was admitted to a local hospital. Italy's ANSA news agency later said his condition was not as serious as initially feared and that he was expected to recover within around three weeks.

The other officer was injured by rocks hurled at him by fans during clashes outside the stadium, it said.

Inter Milan won the match 2-0 in Parma to retain their Serie A league title. Defeat meant Parma were relegated to the second tier of Italian soccer.

Italy is trying to crack down on a serious soccer violence problem at its club matches.

A Lazio fan was shot dead by police in November after a scuffle at a motorway rest stop and a policeman was killed in riots outside a match in Catania last year.

The league was suspended for a period after the death in Catania and new measures were brought in to try to clamp down on hoolig *** m. (Writing by Phil Stewart; editing by Keith Weir)

''JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE FOR SOCCER FANS AND LOCAL POLICE''

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20/05/2008
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kiwi_kea kiwi kea kiwi kea.....another hitler in the house!!! you are a total blender hori mate!! lol what brings you to the table?? u still hurting from before??? ok you deserve a hug...wheres ian roberts when u need him:):):):):) searching the web like theres no tomorrow!! hahahahahahahahahahahaha hurts doesnt it??
funny u got all these copy and pasted stories and add your angry insults at the end!! just because league doesnt get a mention you have to put in ur 2cents worth... you poor thing, i feel so sorry for you... thats ok i'll put you in the same category with jonhy boy and wharfie....very angry people in nz:):):)
its funny you put these stories through yet it doesnt get a mention in the news!!! lol not to graphic comes to mind!! lol anyway, i think your hurting that IAN ROBERTS didnt join ronaldo on his journey to wonderland!!!
anger anger anger anger anger is all that comes from you kiwi_kea.... i think we should call you tame iti - people of the bush:):):)

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20/05/2008
10:44 am

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Rugby murder in the Boland
Monday, June 26 Print
A Boland club rugby player was beaten to death on Saturday in a horrific incidence of rugby violence. Boland B captain Riaan Loots was kicked and punched to death during a brawl between Rawsonville and Delicious Rugby club as a fight broke out after the final whistle.

Loots - a student at Stellenbosch - was declared brain dead at hospital in Worchester.



The Boland police are investigating the case on the grounds of assault with intent to do grevious bodily harm. The case will be upgraded to murder when the life support machines are switched off.

NEED I SAY MORE!

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20/05/2008
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Storm over Welsh rugby wife-beating
By Martin Shipton

A MAJOR row blew up last night after an official report claimed that wife-beating doubles on international rugby days, quadruples if Wales are beaten and multiplies by eight if Wales lose to England.

The shocking assertion is contained in an in-depth report on substance abuse sent to members of the National Assembly, one of whom has placed it on his own website.

Its impact is likely to be greater because of the imminence of the friendly match between Wales and England at the Millennium Stadium on Saturday.

The report, commissioned by the Rhondda Cynon Taf Substance Misuse Action Team from Nacro (National Association for the Care and Resettlement of Offenders) Cymru, says, “Alcohol was the main concern of residents and most of the service providers.

“Rugby supporters were considered to be becoming a problem.”

One person interviewed for the report said, “A few years ago there was no problem with the rugby crowd, but everybody these days goes out with the sole intention of getting blasted.”

WE CAN ALL PAINT PICTURES YOU C#*K !

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20/05/2008
10:34 am

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By Karien Jonckeere

While Willie Loots sat holding his dying son Riaan's hand on the side of the field as paramedics tried to revive the 24-year-old rugby player, all he could hear was the persistent shouting of insults by one woman in the crowd.

Decisions are still being made as to what will happen to the players responsible for Loots's death during that match between Rawsonville and Delicious rugby clubs last month. But no punishment is likely to be handed out to the crowd that gathered in Rawsonville that day.

And while Loots senior gains some comfort from the promises that have been made to deal with the violence that has permeated Boland rugby, he will only be fully convinced when he actually sees the changes implemented

WANT ANYMORE EXSAMPLES DICK

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20/05/2008
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Montferrand fined for crowd violence


Angry Montferrand fans move in on the match officials
French side AS Montferrand have been handed a suspended fine of Ł10,000 after match officials were attacked by home supporters at the end of a Heineken Cup match
The incident was sparked by the yellow carding of three Montferrand forwards by referee Rob Dickson during the last 10 minutes of their home Pool Five match against Cardiff in October.

Chairman of the European Rugby Cup disciplinary committee, RFU delegate Terry Burwell, said: "The responsibility for the safety of the match officials is with the clubs.

"It is essential that the match officials are protected from physical and verbal abuse.

Appeal

"ERC is committed to ensuring that match officials are free to carry out their duties and that the integrity of the tournament is both maintained and safeguarded."

HEY DICK, PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULDNT THROW STONES!!

By: whartie72
20/05/2008
7:59 am

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Just been thinking about something. Who basically runs the world? Middle aged white conservative males. Isnt that the kind of people that you say watch rugby? Makes you think eh. Rugby heads rule the world! Hurrah!!!!
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