By: powley9
25/06/2008
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| yes he is a goer |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
25/06/2008
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| For sure powley9. Hasn't he been an outstanding player so far. |
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By: powley9
25/06/2008
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| smith is not a long way behind xtra. |
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By: xtr365705@xtra.co.nz
25/06/2008
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| Josh played in a different era with different break down laws so in his own time yes he was. But this is now and Richie will be the best ever in his time. And not only NZ but the entire rugby world. |
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By: eatthomas@xtra.co.nz
24/06/2008
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| Josh K was the best #7 NZ ever had! |
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By: scribble24
24/06/2008
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| kiwi_blk - well said! When 2 players can raise the level of the whole team they can only be described as world class. How many international teams can only dream of being represented by such game winners? |
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By: kiwi_blk
24/06/2008
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Ajabel - There are a lot of us here in NZ that were hurting after the world cup. Some of us have taken a while to start looking at things in perspective. It is well documented here that I have been heavily critical of the All Blacks and their current selection, and my feelings on the coach are documented as well. Dan Carter & Richie are going a long way to restoring the faith of a lot us, and, I have to say that the influence that they have on this team is huge - and just their presence helps drag other players to a higher level.
This team has performed a hell of a lot better than i expected, and they have earned the support of the NZ Public. They may or may not win the tri - nations or the next world cup, but they are still the All Blacks, they represent our country, and for that alone deserve our support |
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By: gavbeta
24/06/2008
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| Aren't New Zealanders nice people (****ing right) |
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By: nalaleba
24/06/2008
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ajabel
Just out of curiousity ,when you watch a game , what do you actually see. |
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By: dhume200
24/06/2008
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Aren't you a bitter little man ajabel
There are numerus examples of great sportsmen that have been in teams that haven't won the world cup/ world championships. Sachin Tendulkar, Brian Lara in cricket, Stacey Jones in league, great soccer players - to numerus to count. The list goes on and on.
Carter was injured iin the QF and so should probably not have set foot on the field.
Those things aside, I would say that these two players are the two best in their positions in the world bar none. We are extremely fortunate that our two best players are in such influential positions so that they can turn games in our favour. |
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By: putionz
24/06/2008
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ajabel
ABs won a world cup as well... |
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By: dachiropractor17
24/06/2008
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| id rather win 90% of the games...and not lose to scotland or wales:):) |
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By: ajabel1
24/06/2008
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This is just my opinion;
When McCaw and Carter perform in a world cup final to the level they got to against the English (weakend side). Then maybe I'll be convinced of ther stardom.
At the moment I would rather watch the U20's rugby team. They won a World cup! |
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By: putionz
24/06/2008
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sorry that should have been addressed to ABAJ |
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By: putionz
24/06/2008
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endorsements and marketing you can't get away from the fact that these guys are singled out because they have "x" factor. Win or lose they are part of a team structure. Dan can kick for space but lunless the chasers are chaisng then it's not going to happen is it? If Richie secures oppositioon ball only to have it fumbled etc then this isn;t gpoing to translate into anythign postive is it They've done the yards Dan has real $ value and that doesn't happen if you're not a star. Get with the programme everyone else knows the reality and you're initiating a thread that could only be done by a soccer hooligan haha |
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By: che_muller
23/06/2008
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| Yeah, Richie and Dan are going to be greats, they're currently the best players in the world in their positions. If we don't lift them up as star players in our national sport then who do you suggest out of our current crop of All Blacks? |
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By: bmoosenz
23/06/2008
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<Thanks, when did I insult you?? Grow up. It's only an opinion & it's only a game.>
Mate you insulted the nation |
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By: dachiropractor17
23/06/2008
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mccaw or smith??
mccaw |
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By: powley9
23/06/2008
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| people are allowed their opinions macaw and carter are great players without doubt but so are larkin and smith |
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By: allahood
23/06/2008
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| Give yourself an uppercut ajabel1. It is clear you know nothing about rugby and have probably never played a team sport in your life. Everyone knows that Carter and McCaw are the worlds best players, regardless of the teams result. Please don't post any more threads, others may not be so polite. |
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By: dachiropractor17
23/06/2008
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| david beckham is a star...not for his playing ability though..:):) |
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By: ajabel1
20/06/2008
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| Thanks, when did I insult you?? Grow up. It's only an opinion & it's only a game. |
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By: bmoosenz
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| Ajabel, when you say WE shouldnt build them up as super stars do you mean New Zealand fans, the media oposing coaches? McCaw and Carter are both world class, you only need to look at the stats to see that. But If I were coach I would have started Evans at last years world cup semi, he was in sublime form. To call Dan and Richie a joke you are obviously a phuk stick! |
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By: ajabel1
20/06/2008
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Im not saying that they are solely to blame for the loss in France. Im saying that we shouldn't build them up as super stars at the end of the day it's just a game.
In the professional era, other national sides don't seem to care about the results during the years between the world cup like NZ'rs do. Let's compare the world cup concept to soccer. How many national sides in the soccer world field their best possible team in tournaments between the world cup? |
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By: juzzkirk
20/06/2008
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| it was a group effort those on and off the field and us at home,yes us at home....but as a professional sports team the buck stops with them |
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