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By: tobes95
25/10/2007
1:33 pm

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yukyournogood what's your point??? touched and exposed? shouldn't u be on a porno MB

By: nicolte
25/10/2007
1:15 pm

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yukouranogood

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Mission accomplished, over and out.
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What? You made yourself look like a sh(i)t for brains, I agree, over and out now.....but, when you say "out" I hope that doesn't mean permanently coz I would just miss you too much.

By: nicolte
25/10/2007
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yukouranogood
the only thing "touched" is you ya fu(c)kin moron, "exposed", the only thing getting exposed is what a dumb ar(s)e you are.

But like I say, I am always amused by your dropping by, it gives me something to laugh at, but do you think one time you might be able to discuss rugby? or this beyond your own obvious "erroneous perception of your wisdom" ?

By: yukouranogood
25/10/2007
12:54 pm

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You Beauty! Nicolte is touched and exposed. Other posters please keep up my work of exposing Nicolte's erroneous perception of his own wisdom and being above pushing his opinion on others. Mission accomplished, over and out.

By: nicolte
25/10/2007
12:21 pm

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putionz
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Is there absolutely no positives in the rotation policy? Can anyone put a possbile upside to the rotation policy?
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actually yes!

The catch phrase, and the reason the reconditioning and rotation policy was introduced was to avoid player burnout, increase longevity, and for the purposes of "peaking" at the right time.

At the risk of being shot down in flames I think NZ is in a position whereby we have the depth to field two International quality sides. But why would we do this? Earlier this year it came in handy for us to field two separate sides on consecutive weekends, Argentina in Argentina, and then Ireland in NZ. This avoided (most)players from having to travel back from Argentina to play the following weekend, I think this type of arrangement would be invaluable if Argentina were made an addition to the Tri Nations, or if the IRB ever got its act together and implemented a "world league" which at the moment is just the stuff of pipedreams. I think having the "reconditioning" program going in tandem with the rotation (in hindsight) was maybe too much, but just having the rotation policy alone I believe could still produce benefits.

I am probably going to be sailing alone on this one, but thats OK you cant agree with everyone all the time !!! hahaha

By: nicolte
25/10/2007
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yukouranogood
I thought so, NOTHING intelligent to say then? I thought it might be too hard a task for someone with your extremely limited intellect.

Oh dear, I've just realised, that was ur attempt at wit, good for you, i think you will make plenty of friends in 5th grade next year - good girl :-) :-)

:-) Thanks for droppin by once again sweet thing, I am always pleased to read your valuable input.

By: noblenacewa
25/10/2007
11:14 am

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re rotation
i think SA had better depth than us anyway except at 1st 5
the only problem that i would have with keeping henry is that deans would end up somewhere else
if they can somehow involve both of them, such as deans as backline coach (check '03 tri nations) or henry as technical advisor (check '03 Blues) with the other as head coach then NZ rugby would be better for it

By: yukouranogood
25/10/2007
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Yes, I think Nicolte surely has something good to say about rotating. Pretty sure he does it on a regular basis.

By: putionz
25/10/2007
9:56 am

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Is there absolutely no positives in the rotation policy? Can anyone put a possbile upside to the rotation policy?

By: appascoe
24/10/2007
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HENRY MUST GO. Worst performance at a world cup. He got it wrong: rotation policy failed. Everyone knows the midfield combination needs consistent selection and time to be perfected. How could he keep changing them!

By: putionz
24/10/2007
8:13 am

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dion so you conveniently ignore that consistency in coaching staff may account for something long term? I don't think I would feel particualrly safe if you were driving friend! You ability to think ahead seems quite limited please step away from the monitor and pulll your hands outta your undies.

By: gvtstkwi07
23/10/2007
4:41 pm

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where does Wayne Bennet stand in the N.r.l?Murray the coach of the storm, where did he stand before they won this year?

By: diontnz
23/10/2007
4:08 pm

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Henry must go.Rotation policy didnt work.Even the NRL have the philosphy that"consistency of selection is the key to winning the grand final."Bring in Robbie Deans I say.

By: putionz
23/10/2007
8:01 am

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I apologise I should have been pointing out the loss to Australia where clearly the overall feature of the world cup game was beginning to reduce to what now appears to me to be like watching test games before the professional era.

By: putionz
23/10/2007
7:22 am

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eric my position in terms of why I feel the current set-up should be retained is no secret. The country has been reactive with every campaign failure. Let's put aside making quarters, semis etc as at the end of the day the cup is the objective all else counts for nothing eg. getting silver or bronze. (perhaps not so much in Argentinas case given they have come further this year). Your argument is clearly focussed on the outcome of the Tournament and what I've based my opinion on is acheivement during Henry's tenure.I don't recall Mithchell ABs accomplishing a grandslam and series win and you may argue that this was due to there not being an opportunity but here's the rub that team would eventuate into a team that saw the trophy cupboard stripped and issues around a scrum that was described to me as "going soft". You have discounted the rugby public that wanted Mithcell gone following his result at the World Cup further to which the French genuinely handed the ABs their 4rses eg. no officiating/leadership discrepancies etc just outplayed. I think the NZRU may be swayed by public opinion but the international media? You've closed by totally ignoring Henry's work of estblishing a winning culture: 4 years of winning rugby. Are you really going to sit there and suggest that Mitchell if kept would have done it and deny Henry the same consideration? And to what style of Rugby are you referring? The World Cup appears to be an overdose of percentages rugby with gunshy top tier teams not prepared to open it up. I sincerely hope you don't think that this poor showing should serve as a gauge for Henry's firing. Because what went before has not seen NZ written on the cup either.

By: ericshin45
21/10/2007
3:42 pm

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Eveyone is also talking of knee jerk reactions after world cups i think these guys have to go. We need a coach who will implement structures and patterns that the team can work into and then assert dominance on the game as well as a 15 man game. Mitchell and Deans were the closest to achieving this getting the forwards and backs working in tandem the all blacks played some of their best rugby under those two coaches but that semi the way the injuries were handled and more specifically Mitchells inability to deal with the media was what cost him his job it wasnt just the NZ public that wanted him gone the world media wanted his blood. The 3 wise men have not reached the heights or got the results that the previous coaches did and the ABs arnt playing a good style of rugby - time to go !!!!

By: ericshin45
21/10/2007
3:28 pm

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Henry has to go his attitute changed about 6 months ago and the All Blacks play this year has reflected that unmotivated and lethargic. The reconditioning programme left the players underdone they had no combinations due to the constant rotations instead relying primarly on individual flair rather than using a team oriented style of play. That was even before the world cup now that brings us to the quaterfinal having a 4-3 split on the bench was a joke Carter wasnt 100% fit McDonald only lasted 5mins the game before Mulinia had been injured earlier in the tournament basically they played Keith Robinson at the expense of a 'fit' back for example Aaron Muager this was extremly shortsighted and shows that these coaches learned absolutely nothing from 2003 they implemented the rotation policy so that they had plenty of depth but then went ahead and played 3 suspect players without enough cover on the bench and what happened Carter came off Evans got injured and the back line went into disarry

By: putionz
21/10/2007
9:01 am

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Well well well. Now that the jubille effect of the tournament has come down to the final and again everything in the universe falls into place SOut Africa have pulled another one out of the bag to win another tournament. Now when ae qwe playing those phuckers ha ha. jokes Congrats to the Boks. the display and outcomes aren't surprising for me however Henry was onn to it all the time. Let the man get on with the job. All Blacks!

By: putionz
20/10/2007
1:06 pm

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I don't think your dumb just a hypocrite and a person who floats about the place shovelling shit with no conviction. If I had to accuse you of somthing It would be err...okay your dumb!

By: nicolte
20/10/2007
10:13 am

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ooooohhhhhhhh. that is a sore point for you isn't waarvanden, being called DUMB.


Well, if the shoe fits!!!!!! and it seems pretty snug to me...hahahahahahaha

No really, no one thinks your dumb waarvanden

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By: waarvanden
20/10/2007
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well putio if you dont like people giving there opinions then I sujest you go to counciling with the abs. This is a forum thats what happens here. Please dont label me as dumb as I am not.
Its plain to see whats gone on with the abs but of course your the expert and we are all idiots..you dont have to be on the INSIDE to see whats going on... try being a bit more polite thanks

By: putionz
20/10/2007
9:01 am

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Of course you were on the inside when all of this went down no doubt. Again I stress the benefit of hindsight to you and your panel of experts. Talk it up as much as you want but it seems the majority of voices out there weigh in favour of reason and more importantly a maturing supporter. Keeping players honest I concur really needs to come form within the team structure itself but looking at what has happened at this world cup I think that if some leadership had been exercised on the field This team may have gotten over that mental hurdle and would definitely have gone all the way but again the benefit of hindsight. There's alot of supposition here because unlike yourself I'm not about to talk like I was actually there in the changing room knowing what was being said. W 99% of your argument is really proselyting which I'm afraid is lost on a majority of people who really aren't as base or dumb as you are.

By: waarvanden
20/10/2007
8:40 am

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very well put fullcircle..I cant beleave about this counciling crap. henry has to go he has far to much influence over his sidekicks etc.
Simple realy, have a base first xv,how do you expect combinations otherwise also the pampering thats going on, Well making them into superstrars(in there own minds).

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20/10/2007
8:31 am

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By: waarvanden
20/10/2007
8:21 am

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true he bullet and the sooner the allblack brainstrust realize this the faster a worls cup might come there way.
without sounding like a broken record just look at the team of 87.
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